Posts by terafera2

and remarked on how the Chosen ones were the Anointed. Am I wrong...(which I could be, I dont claim to be a Bible Scholar), but arent the 'chosen' ones talked about in that scripture supposed to be God's followers (Christians)? I never thought the Tribulation was supposed to be cut short to protect the Anointed.... I was told at the Hall that it would be like 'touching God's eye' when 'his people' were attacked, and to protect his people He would bring about the end.

You make it seem like this whole thing is God's way of getting 144,000 people up in heaven. Dont you think He cares about the other followers?

I dont get all the name calling and negative attacks. Yadirf/Lefty, etc.... it seems many people have made good points, but what could be positive and interesting Biblical conversation has been reduced to huge posts of re-quotes and sarcastic disses.

I know in reading the very first post of this thread I got a knot in my stomach..that same old 'you're gonna die soon' stuff that I've heard my whole life. A bus could run you over.. you never know when you're going to die. How about being a good person in this life and stop trying to hurt others?

Again, could someone answer me about the Chosen ones stated at Matt. 24:22? Was this scripture posted out of text or am I looking at it wrong? Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

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I won! Not an April Fools post either

by WildHorses in

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i played the poker machines today at work.

i put in $5 and at first played for a quarter.

well, i was down to my last dollar and thought,(i'm going to lose anyway, might as well go for broke.

terafera2

Congrats Lilacs! I'm jealous

I'm not a gamblin lady (usually too broke LOL) but one day, when it was my birthday, my in-laws went to bingo and I tagged along. I spent $20 and won a game- $750. Then I won another game- $300. I bought some pull tabs and won another $100. I couldnt believe it.

So..

I get home and tell my hubby. He, being very superstitious, goes to late night bingo and wins $1,000!! I am not kidding...

After that it seems we never won again, no matter how much we played. I always wondered if it was the Devil trying to get us hooked! LOL

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Is this how we want to be perceived?

by Joyzabel in

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this quote is from someone who lurks on jwd!

sorry for the long email, but this has been therapeutic and i just may post this on the db one day.

(lol) but i have to get up the nerve, because those people can be a little mean at times.

terafera2

I think I understand what the 'lurker' was talking about. Not too long ago a question was asked on our personal opinions.
There were some that called me an #$%hole and crazy, retarded, etc... all the while I never spoke nasty or harrassing. The only problem was that my opinion wasn't popular.

I've noticed a pattern of saying 'we're all open minded', yet when a person dares to think outside of the box, they are slammed and crucified.

That may be the problem!

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do you get enough spiritual food?

by terafera2 in

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this was sent to me by a loving 'sister' (do you think it was a hint??):.

a weak brother wrote a letter to a friend complaining that it made no sense to go to meetings regularly.

"i've gone for 30 years now," he wrote, "and in that time i have heard something like 3,000 talks.

terafera2

This was sent to me by a loving 'sister' (do you think it was a hint??):

A weak brother wrote a letter to a friend complaining that it made no sense to go to meetings regularly. "I've gone for 30 years now," he wrote, "and in that time I have heard something like 3,000 talks. But for the life of me, I can't remember a single one of them. So, I think I'm wasting my time and the elders are wasting theirs by giving talks at
all."

The brother replied with this clincher:
I've been married for 30 years now. In that time my wife has cooked some 32,000 meals. But for the life of me, I cannot recall the entire menu for a single one of those meals. But I do know this: They all nourished me and gave me the strength I needed to do my work. If my wife had not given me these meals, I would be physically dead today.
Likewise, if I had not gone to meetings for nourishment, I would be spiritually dead today!"

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Is homosexuality wrong?

by forgetmenot in

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i know that the dub's view is that it is totally wrong.

i live in an area where the majority of people think it is wrong.

i don't think it is wrong (but i am not a homosexual).

terafera2

You know what's funny? If you express your opinion, you're only right if your post is what the reply-er agrees to!

"Tera, your dumb. Gay is right. Why? Cuz I said so!"

Hmm..this thinking makes me think of....where was it... oh thats right! The kingdom halls! You just accept it, no questions asked, who cares if it makes no sense.

I notice only certain ones are replying. It could be the lurkers are afraid of posting they think it's wrong. Because clearly, when surveys are done and the person stays anonymous, the majority disagrees with homosexuality. The ones for it feel a certain pride in saying 'look how educated and open minded we are'.

There are many things I would not like to open minded about. For example- there are groups headed by gay men like the Man/Boy group (or whatever the heck they're called) that want to make the legal age for having sex with boys younger than 18. It is no secret that most gay males favor and fantasize about young men, even boys. You cannot, will not, ever, cover this up and say it's all about 'love'.

How many gay men meet one man, stay committed with no outside partners for the rest of their life? I know many heterosexuals that do...but in the gay lifestyle it does- not- happen. The gay lifestyle is about going from person to person. You do not meet alot of straights that hang out in bath houses looking for a 'fix up'. There might be some, but it is not the norm. You will find this a common occurance among gays. There are bathrooms where gays will anonymously have sex, not knowing their names. And this is 'love'? When people say God doesnt care who we love, thats a joke.
It's not about love. You can love anyone you want. When you take in an unhealthy lifestyle, there are reprecussions.

My mother and father grew up in a small hometown where there was a small number of gays. They would dress up and hang out together. My parents vividly recall them yelling at passerby, offering B.J.'s and cat calling men. They would hit on little boys, and a close friend of my mother's got sucked into the lifestyle. He admitted the gay men paid him for favors and she would see him riding around town with them, in a new car and new clothes. Where is he now? He died of AIDS. My father even admitted to me that one of the gay men cornered him and molested him as he tried to get away. This is something I have never told anyone, but it shows the lifestyle and mentality of the 'gay' lifestyle. Anyone who denies it is in deep denial and needs help.

Do I have to tell every person my view? Of course not! Do gays deserve to live without harm? Of course! Am I wrong for having my own beliefs? Of course not!
Just because we're no longer Witnesses does not mean we throw all sense out the window.

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What Is Your Hope Now???

by YYHWH in

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my hope for over 30 years was the same as many here on this site.

when i made my decesion to no longer me a jw at first i just figured that i was a goat and that i would just die at armageddon along with all the other wicked ones.

well after doing some research on the dubs and on religion in general i have come to some differnt conclusions about life,death and what might happen when you die.. i have to be honest and tell you that it has been difficult to accept the fact that any hope of any sort of life after death is very unfounded.. i have come to believe that religion is for people who cannot accept the only certainty we have in this life is that you are going to die.. my hope is that i can live this life and be able to raise my children up to be responsible and productive adults.

terafera2

Gary, you sound like a cool guy! I love your attitude... lets hang out sometime!

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A BIG Thank You...

by think41self in

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to simon and angharad for making this place possible.

to all of the wonderful people i've met here.

when my husband was posting on h2o, i would read over his shoulder, and he would read aloud to me some of the controversial subject matter.

terafera2

Think41self,
Thanks for the encouraging words. I always enjoy your posts... It's a nice thought to think that even if your post doesnt get replies, someone out there may be touched by it. We really dont know the power of our words.

I look forward to the next thousand posts from you.

I send out warm wishes to you and Doug!

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Being a JW Kid

by Scully in

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i've always felt that the adult jws got off pretty easily compared to jw kids.. for instance: .

my dad went to work, and didn't bother his co-workers with jw stuff.

it wasn't allowed.

terafera2

((ASHI))

Those who were raised as JWs were some of the best parents, and those are the people I miss the most. They WERE good
parents, and balanced things, buying presents, etc.
But I think adult converts become too religiously selfish, that they forget the nuances that make childhood happy.

THANK YOU!

I have always kinda wondered if this were true.. it certainly was in my case! My mom would tell us not to have anything to do with holidays.. then go on to regale happy times opening Christmas presents, seeing the Easter Bunny give eggs out, etc. Then when I would say I wanted to do those things, she would say, 'oh your lucky, I didnt have the truth back then.' Then I would think to myself, 'yeah right, well i wish I didnt know the truth then!'

Now that I have left, I thank my mother for 28 years of no happy memories in my childhood.*sarcastically*

But it is true, I have to remember she was doing what she thought was right.

I hated it when a cute boy liked me and I knew it could go nowhere!! Shoot, I couldnt even call him. I remember in 9th grade this boy I liked SOOOOO much gave me his phone number on the bus. I took it home and saved it for months.. I didnt have the nerve to use it, but held it to remind myself that I wasnt so bad. Well, my mom finds it and calls the boy, but the boy isnt home. She talks to him mother, and tells her that her daughter is a JW and wont be dating!! Then she asked her if we had sex. Can you believe it????!!!!!! Can you imagine my horror to see this cute guy in high school with a funny look on his face. He wanted to know why my mom called his mom. We hadnt even talked on the phone, for God's sake!! UGGHGHGHGHGHHG!!!

Sorry, flashbacks making me mental!

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The Doorstep Presentation THAT TRULY WORKS!

by Focus in

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greetings, dear worldly householder of the birdseed class, i'm a member of the great crowd of other sheep, or jonadabs (who are not marked in the forehead as would have been the case for one of the eternal remnant class of 144,000 whose membership was closed 64 years ago until new light from the great teacher of progressive revelation caused it to be understood that vacancies would from time to time occur), rendering sacred service to the ancient of days in the earthly courtyard of the spiritual temple by following the example of the fine shepherd and engaging as a member of the pioneer class in preaching the good news of the kingdom with the mouth-borne sword of the spirit now the 2,300 symbolic evenings have passed.

we are helping warn those not familiar with the divine name that the second presence of the chief agent of life who returned after being resurrected but not in his own body which was dematerialized into gases and after then being out of action has now already begun, and has in fact been in progress now for 86 years, and that no one else has noticed this totally obvious but wholly invisible event is irrefutable proof both that it is true and that our faith is the one true, all other ones being from their father, satan the devil.

we have a lot of proof to justify this reasonable view, including evidence as yet undiscovered.

terafera2

I dont what's wrong with you... that made perfect sense to me!

You apostates [8>]

(I've had to use my other name .... darn post limits!!!)

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