i've never liked being late for meetings, 10 minutes early has always been 5 minutes late for me.
i'm a very punctual atheist at the meetings still.. when someone asks a simple question from the platform and not one dummy raises their hand, i still feel the need to raise my hand so that we don't all look like idiots.. my shoes still need to be clean and polished, my suits and ties match and are in good shape.
i never wear them anywhere else.. i still feel like saying hello to people that are obviously being ignored by everyone else.. people not singing out still bugs me, lol.
I think I understand the feeling. Question, are you replacing any of those things you're fond of with something? Walking away without having something to fill the void (don't like that expression but can't find a better one) may not help the fading process.
Part of fading is building a life with fulfilling activities, and looking for better, healthier, self-loving ways of meeting your needs, not just disappearing from the congregation.
i think the reason the borg really went on a cost cutting move and is selling off all thier buildings has become obvious.
the cult is telling people that there fast growing but then the numbers seem to indicate about a 1% growth rate.
this would give them roughly 800,000 new baptized ones in ten years give or take do to the small increase per year from previous gains.
There loosing 2 million per decade. How long can that's last.
People or dollars? Doubt that it's dollars. They do have a plan, they are in the real estate business and that move is going really well. They will continue sucking up the lives and money from their people until there's none. Then tjey will just close, leave, and reinvent themselves and start over again.
For them being the kind of cult that predicts the end of the world, their longevity has actually been quite good.
...and you know how spiritual i am!.
right?.
https://youtu.be/0btlqh8ndq8?t=231.
I agree with Simon, not sure what should I do after your post, definitely not just an emoji.
well the ball has started rolling, gonna sue, can't go into to much detail.
time for some payback .
Go get those filthy corrupted criminals.
here's a conversation i just had with my relative a few minutes ago i'll let you decide.. relative : would you like to read your grandfather the days txt (she passes joe the phone).
joe : sure.
(then proceed to read it to my grandfather and explain it).. after discussing the points joe says to relative.. hey what's the story arnt they printing books any more.. relative : no they arnt necessary any more.. joe : really why is that.. relative : it's all on line.
Well it's never been like that,
I think that attitude is the real cancer in religious organizations. All of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteo_jp4aee .
The saddest thing is that few people seem to see the connection between that kind of instruction and overall people's disregard for human life.
so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!
evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.
clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.
That doesn't seem reasonable to me.
Hmmm... they claim that they are the one and only truth, that those GB people are appointed directly by their "Jehovah", that people are going to live 1,000 years, that 144,000 idiots are going to heaven, that you are better death than living after getting a blood transfusion, that you don't need education other than the one they claim they provide, and they demand you to shun your own family members who don't believe their nonsense. Clapping for a person who for some bizarre reason decides to return to that crap doesn't seem like the biggest deal breaker to me.
Call me crazy, but to me there are quite a few unreasonable things in that cult.
i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?
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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .
If possible, former members and current ones separately...
What's the purpose of this part?
in the video of the world youth day "spread message of divine mercy" the young people are called witnesses of christ's church.
i am now watching the happy young people.. introduction words even in english at youtube 9:07. .
anyone here understands polish too?.
Ilk!
i've been 100% alone since my df last month.
i'm dead to my family now, unless i return to their cult - so i recently made contact with 3 former jw's that were in my cong when i was in my youth.
to my surprise, they all had exactly the same doubts and reasoning i had and said even though they've been out 6-7 years they "still feel tied to it in some way" and "feel guilty celebrating xmas or birthdays".
Some changes have to come in in order to maintain control surely?
I think yes and no. I wouldn't surprise me if the cult continue doing exactly the same thing even if they lose people. remember, they have alternatives. They are not in the business of caring for their people; they are in the business of money. They are in the real estate business now and they are doing well, so who cares about being less people. They will find some kind of biblical reason to do what they have.
