Posts by scratchme1010

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Reinstated and then fade

by Zeds Dead in

i'm a man - d'fd for 2.5 years now and divorced.

find it hard to date girls out here only due to always having this secret i carry with me that i was once a jw and the thought of telling a girl one day why my family don't acknowledge me as even alive.. recently been thinking of trying to get reinstated and then do a quick fade as i cant go back to the whole jw stuff.. easier said than done and was turned down twice by elders after an immediate attempt 2 years ago.. my motivation for trying would be 1.

) to see if family make contact and 2) play the last hand in their game and give the middle finger.. interested in viewpoints?.

scratchme1010

Find it hard to date girls out here only due to always having this secret I carry with me that I was once a JW and the thought of telling a girl one day why my family don't acknowledge me as even alive.

What? I'd look at who and what kind of people you choose to date. Maybe stepping out of the comfort zone of people who make you comfortable asking out could help you find saner people who can't care less about being a JW. It's a religious affiliation, not child pornography for heaven's sake.

Some jerk elders love to mess with people and exercise all the power they can over others. That's all they have in their lives, so they may make it more difficult to you just for their own feeling of power over you. Have you considered looking for another congregation that may have more loving elders? I've known of some people who got reinstated faster in a different congregation, even when the written records trash them.

As for your reasons to get reinstated, I think that's decided on a case by case basis. I'm very clear about my standing with the WT and my JW family, and I don't need to go back for anything. But I know that there are people who are too invested and have many loved ones who are in and can't just leave and walk away. Your reasons are yours and I don't think that there's any right nor wrong in going back.

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Subtle Differences in congregations

by SouthCentral in

jw
friends

i grew up in a very zealous congregation.

we had almost 40 pioneers with only 100 publishers.

the congregation was 100% black americans (i don't say african-american).

scratchme1010

What are some differences that you noticed between black/white/spanish congregations? Have you noticed any racism/discrimination? Did witness talk negatively about other races? Growing up, most looked down on the spanish congregations (in the late 80's) but there was never any blatant discrimination. What has been your experience?
Did friend in your congregation not like /talk about other races negatively?

For as much as the JWs want to be and portray themselves as not part of the planet, and for as much as they claim that they have some "spiritual paradise" thing going on, the reality is that they aren't any different than the rest of the world. Socially, congregations behave according to the local culture. It's impossible to expect all congregations to have the exact same social characteristics.

As for racism, just like the rest of the country, I saw it everywhere in all the congregations I went to.

In one of my arguments with my father, he told me that the JWs don't discriminate. I laughed and said: "Sure, they don't discriminate; they just claim to be the one and only group that has the one and only truth, and the only ones deserving to live. Nothing, just that".

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Suffering with "Bridge-over-River-Kwai-syndrome" while fading

by OneGenTwoGroups in

i've never liked being late for meetings, 10 minutes early has always been 5 minutes late for me.

i'm a very punctual atheist at the meetings still.. when someone asks a simple question from the platform and not one dummy raises their hand, i still feel the need to raise my hand so that we don't all look like idiots.. my shoes still need to be clean and polished, my suits and ties match and are in good shape.

i never wear them anywhere else.. i still feel like saying hello to people that are obviously being ignored by everyone else.. people not singing out still bugs me, lol.

scratchme1010

I think I understand the feeling. Question, are you replacing any of those things you're fond of with something? Walking away without having something to fill the void (don't like that expression but can't find a better one) may not help the fading process.

Part of fading is building a life with fulfilling activities, and looking for better, healthier, self-loving ways of meeting your needs, not just disappearing from the congregation.

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Turn out the lights the party is over

by Crazyguy in

i think the reason the borg really went on a cost cutting move and is selling off all thier buildings has become obvious.

the cult is telling people that there fast growing but then the numbers seem to indicate about a 1% growth rate.

this would give them roughly 800,000 new baptized ones in ten years give or take do to the small increase per year from previous gains.

scratchme1010

There loosing 2 million per decade. How long can that's last.

People or dollars? Doubt that it's dollars. They do have a plan, they are in the real estate business and that move is going really well. They will continue sucking up the lives and money from their people until there's none. Then tjey will just close, leave, and reinvent themselves and start over again.

For them being the kind of cult that predicts the end of the world, their longevity has actually been quite good.

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This guy is more spiritual than I could ever be!

by Nathan Natas in

...and you know how spiritual i am!.

right?.

https://youtu.be/0btlqh8ndq8?t=231.

scratchme1010

I agree with Simon, not sure what should I do after your post, definitely not just an emoji.

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I'm gonna sue those f€$¥kers

by moley in

well the ball has started rolling, gonna sue, can't go into to much detail.

time for some payback .

scratchme1010

Go get those filthy corrupted criminals.

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A conversation with my ultra dub relative

by joe134cd in

here's a conversation i just had with my relative a few minutes ago i'll let you decide.. relative : would you like to read your grandfather the days txt (she passes joe the phone).

joe : sure.

(then proceed to read it to my grandfather and explain it).. after discussing the points joe says to relative.. hey what's the story arnt they printing books any more.. relative : no they arnt necessary any more.. joe : really why is that.. relative : it's all on line.

scratchme1010

Well it's never been like that,

I think that attitude is the real cancer in religious organizations. All of them.

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Horror and Paradise For Jehovah's Witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteo_jp4aee .

scratchme1010

The saddest thing is that few people seem to see the connection between that kind of instruction and overall people's disregard for human life.

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Jeehoober says we can clap for reinstated ones!!

by DATA-DOG in

so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!

evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.

clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.

scratchme1010

That doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Hmmm... they claim that they are the one and only truth, that those GB people are appointed directly by their "Jehovah", that people are going to live 1,000 years, that 144,000 idiots are going to heaven, that you are better death than living after getting a blood transfusion, that you don't need education other than the one they claim they provide, and they demand you to shun your own family members who don't believe their nonsense. Clapping for a person who for some bizarre reason decides to return to that crap doesn't seem like the biggest deal breaker to me.

Call me crazy, but to me there are quite a few unreasonable things in that cult.

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How many members of Governing Body have college(or higher) degrees?

by intropist in

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friends

i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?

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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .

scratchme1010

If possible, former members and current ones separately...

What's the purpose of this part?