Posts by scratchme1010

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Why disbelieving in God is foolish

by HopeEverLasting in

jw
friends

look, now before i speak, i want to say that it is very okay for someone to not believe.

are they hurting anyone?

killing anyone?

scratchme1010

...But there is a problem when you continually hate on someone for what they believe when what you believe is just as foolish as what you say their belief is. Do you really think continuing saying God isn't real, and you're dumb if you believe that is going to make me change my mind about God? Please. I'm sorry that you all like to attack others beliefs because they don't fit your own.

I love seeing these believers always playing victim. We non believers are not trying to shove our non-believes down other people's throats. You believers are. You are the ones believing in non-believers deserving to die or some kind of punishment. You are the ones always vomiting all kinds of condemnations on other who don't believe, or those who don't behave according to the morals you preach (and never follow anyway), and then you turn around and claim to be attacked when you get put in your place or called on your BS.

Nobody is attacking you, sweetie. Just mind your own effing business.

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Letter # 6 to the Governing Body of Jehovah's witnesses

by WITNESS-FOR-WATCHTOWER-REFORM in

the governing body.

service department of jehovah’s witnesses.

2821 route 22. patterson.

scratchme1010

This is the part about your letter that I find interesting:

Your many rules and policies continue to choke mine and others spirituality - and stumble many to the point of leaving the organisation.

You know that's not going to change at all, that is, if for some reason you keep trying to rely and trust in that organization, right?

Also, I wonder what would you do if they actually read your letter and make the changes that you (and seemingly only you) propose? Do you think that the Wt is going to become a better organization, that people who left will go back, or that those who are still in will stay?

Seriously, what is the point of all that you are doing with those letters?

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From house to house...from door 2 door....JW rapist goes

by Lee Elder in

waymon chandler ivery - a convicted 1st degree child sex offender caught red handed and lying about it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=popk1fq0sdkhttp://www.homefacts.com/offender-detail/cox00245011020160419/waymon-chandler-ivery.html.

someone's knockin' at the door....somebody ringin' the bell.

do your kids a favor...don't let em in..

scratchme1010

Thank you for sharing this. Sadly, we can only know about the ones who get caught.

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Young JW's attitudes

by Phizzy in

i met an old friend last evening, a great guy, an xjw for longer than me.. during a conversation about our experiences since fading (neither of us are da'd or anything) we got to talking about the young jw's.. his wife is still in, and he has two lovely daughters who he is trying to teach the art of critical thinking so that they can make the right choice in the future.. what worries him though is that he is convinced almost all young jw's do not give a "proverbial" if it is the truth or not, they simply wish to remain in it because of the social aspects, loads of friends and activities that they feel safe partaking in etc etc.. so how do you convince these young people that they would have a better life if they left ?.

they see it as losing all their friends, and being alone and trying to build new relationships, which is mostly true.. how do we convince them to make the leap ?.

should they ?.

scratchme1010

I think it is a matter of them learning their own way. The best to do is to have them always aware that they have other choices than what they have in the congregation. As soon as one of them gets "in trouble" and they see the consequences, and as soon as they realize that there is a lot more to life than the JW activities, they can use the outside support and awareness that some of us didn't have.

But it has to come from them. The same than with adults.

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Paranormal Warning

by Cold Steel in

i've heard some weird stories coming from jws about the paranormal.

i know about the warnings about items that come from unbelievers -- those don't interest me as much.

what i am interested in are actual experiences in stories of the paranormal you've heard or experienced yourself.

scratchme1010

Are there any urban legends that tend to circulate primarily among JWs, or have you actually experienced any strange or inexplicable things that you would label the paranormal? For those born into the religion, do you think the Society's emphasis on the paranormal or on demons affect your religious beliefs when you were young or tended to assist the Society in exerting control on your beliefs? Do you think it made you more fearful as a child or as an adult?

There are a few events in my life that have happened that I cannot explain. However I tend to not pay much attention or try to dwell on it.

Today I'm not really very religious at all, and I don't affirm nor subscribe to any belief (or lack of). Most of my self-help work after leaving the JWs has been about reducing its influence from my life to the minimum possible.

Back when I was a JW it never made sense to me to think that some book or computer or artifact is supposed to have demos attached because of its previous owner. I've always thought it's stupid to think that the last known owner of a given object has the capacity to have demos lingering around it, as opposed to any other people who has been in touch with such object during its manufacturing, distribution, selling and delivery. Why thinking about the last person who owned something before me, and not all the other people who have been in touch with it before? Besides, will that rationale make the opposite true, that is, will objects owned by JWs have angels attached to them? The whole thing sounded stupid to me from day one. Never made sense.

Also, as a child I'd always find a flaw or at least simple mindedness every time that I was hearing one of those stupid "demon" stories. Not to mention that some of those stories were just downright a lie. Also, I grew more fearful of the adults I was supposed to trust in the congregation and in my family than some abstract concept of bad beings out there trying to harm me. The tangible, human ones around me were doing a wonderful work at that without their help.

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Exit therapist

by Beachlover in

jw
friends

i am having quite a bit of trouble leaving and fading.

does anyone have recommendations of an exit therapist?

it doesn't matter where they are located, i need to get out physically, mentally, and emotionally.

scratchme1010

I know a couple who are both therapists who specialize in exit counseling and support for current and former members of organizations like the WT.

Their names are Bill and Lorna Goldberg. Their website is www.blgoldberg.com

They do private individual therapy, but also have a support group (the group is free to attend).

I hope this helps.

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Are hot springs and saunas approved by the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses?

by jwleaks in

satan’s snares today.

in the main, satan’s tricks have not changed over the centuries.

in order for christians living in the corrupt city of corinth not to be “overreached by satan,” the apostle paul gave them strong counsel.

scratchme1010

Satan tries to entice God’s servants by means of worldly leisure activities.

Wordly, satanic, dirty, disgusting leisure activities! How dare they think of leisure.

Anyway, my point with this kind of crap from them is that they are the real perverts. They are the ones adding morality to something as natural and simple as the human body and cleaning it.

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Thankfully not many publishers remind " me" of Troy.

by The Rebel in

jw
friends

i took my son to the watford football club family day,-and the highlight- troy deeney.

he stayed until every last item was signed and every selfie was taken.

we left way after the end of the event and he left after us.

scratchme1010

How were you on the ministry, zelouse or lazy? Did you have any zelouse and successful publishers? I am sure that the large % of witnesses can't be bothered on the ministry, and this is why I was not surprised to discover no outsiders have been bought in to the congregation since I left.

I think that because I was born with that organization shoved down my throat, I became both very zealous and dedicated. After all I had no other way of knowing life and as children we always manage to find a way of doing what children are supposed to do.

Later as an adolescent was when i started noticing people slacking. I naively thought that every person was supposed to be as enthusiastic and devoted as I was. That started giving me ideas and I started being less into it. From that point all the way to my fade, I started becoming more and more disinterested, although I was always very, very good at preaching. I actually liked going to talk to people (maybe because that was the only real contact with the outside world I had). Sadly, I was never encouraged or praised for my good skills or devotion.

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Can baptism be considered a legal verbal agreement?

by StarTrekAngel in

based on the requirements set forth and the questions answered at the end.

i believe this question has been asked before.

the fact that you can only be expelled after having been put under this oath of allegiance and that you have witnesses to you making this agreement ( i remember my name was shout to the crowd when i entered the pool ).. if it can be considered so, would there be a legal ground to say minors can not enter this agreement?.

scratchme1010

If it can be considered so, would there be a legal ground to say minors can not enter this agreement?

Yes and no. Yes in the sense that they enter what is legally considered a fiduciary relationship, as they expect guidance and counseling from that organization. That is what has hold them legally responsible for covering sexual abuse of minors and not-so-minors too.

No in the sense that as a religious organization it is based on a spiritual/religious belief, and therefore it's not a transaction what happens when a person joins.

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BITE Model - Sound Familiar?

by pale.emperor in

researching cult mind control brought me to this site: https://www.freedomofmind.com/info/bite/bitemodel.php.

it's like reading a gb mind control manual.

it was my intention to make bold only the ones that the borg do... but they do 98% of them!!!.

scratchme1010

The major question (I think) is why people choose to submit themselves to that? I am born in, so I didn't choose to join. So it always baffles me to know that there are people out there who choose all that.