Posts by scratchme1010

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Why Marrying An Outsider Is NOT A Disfellowshipping "Offense"

by Divergent in

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so yeah, i was thinking about this.

marrying an unbeliever is considered to be wrong, but at the same time, it is not a disfellowshipping "offense".

well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by not disfellowshipping.

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Well, the reason is simple: there is more to gain than to lose by NOT disfellowshipping. If they did disfellowship everyone who married "out of the truth", there is a high chance that such ones WON'T be coming back and the org would lose them forever. So why not take the softer approach - make it permissible, with the hope that the believing one can eventually bring their mate AND any children that they may have into "the truth!" This would be an acceptable solution for many single ones (especially sisters) who are not able to find a marriage mate within the org. So while the org considers marrying a "worldly person" to be wrong, they still allow it!

Actually, I think the reasons are even simpler. They can get sued to their wazoos if they disfellowship people who marry whoever they decide to marry and get disfellowshipped for it. Marriage is a legally binding contract too, protected by the state. People in USA obtain over 1100 government benefits, entitlements and legal protections simply by getting married, and people cannot discriminate based on who they decide to marry.

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Editorial El Periodico, "The dark practices within Jehovah's Witnesses"

by sp74bb in

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enric hernàndez (@enric_hernandez), director of el periódico (www.periodico.es) has written an editorial this morning.

very interesting !!.

link to editorial in spanish.

scratchme1010

Gracias for sharing.

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What were Jesus's 'Miracles' supposed to prove?

by nicolaou in

the healings, feeding the five thousand, walking on water, resurrecting the dead.

none of it happened of course but let's take the bible literally and say that it did.. so?.

didn't magic practicing priests perform 'miracles' in a contest with aaron?

scratchme1010

How exactly are the miracles supposed to convince us that Jesus is the 'good guy'?

They don't. Both the bible and the WT interpretation of it are full of faulty logic like the ones you point. Not to mention that though it is proven that Jesus of Nazareth did in fact exist, there isn't any proof of any of that nonsense that the bible claims he did.

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"Explaining Your Beliefs About Homosexuality"

by wizzstick in

it's doing the rounds but i've not seen it before.. explaining your beliefs about homosexuality.

there are three pages.

here are my thoughts on each question on the pages:.

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So you can get an idea of how life is for a born in who's gay, like me.

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Things you'd never read in the Bible

by Tahoe in

mock the week is a british improvised, satirical celebrity panel show, like whose line is it anyway?

performers deliver answers on unexpected subjects on the spur of the moment.

i found it quite funny and thought i would pass it along.

scratchme1010

LOL!

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The Watchtower try to give a modern twist to the scriptures.

by StephaneLaliberte in

i was listening to the september broadcasting, where david splain talks about how jacob met with esau.

david splain: how did jacob react?

did he try to show how important and prominent he had become?

scratchme1010

Yawn.

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We were fooled by the. " Jehover" of the W.T.

by The Rebel in

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i think that's a fair comment.

but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.

if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?

scratchme1010

I think that's a fair comment.

Not to all. I did not join the JWs. I had that organization shove down my throat since the day I was born. That was not something I chose to join. And so is the case of all those born in. We were not "fooled"; we were raised to believe that crap.

As for "god" outside the JWs, personally I can't care less one way or another. I decided that if there's such a wonderful god that loves me and has an important message, he should personally do the leg work and talk to me. That's not too much to ask. No 2000 year old books, no knocking on my door, no sending his son to die for me, no church, none of that --it that has caused more harm to humanity than good.

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E-Harmony Dilemma

by Iamallcool in

well, i messaged someone on e-harmony and she messaged me back.

i did like her at first and she likes me too.

we exchanged more than 10 messages till i find out yesterday that her best friend is a tarot card reader.

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...till I find out yesterday that her best friend is a tarot card reader...

And that's a deal breaker because...

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Apologizing to my non-JW friends

by pale.emperor in

yesterday i bumped into an old friend from my last workplace.

he's a gay man and we were good friends along with a woman from the same office.

although i was a jw at the time, i would go for the occasional after work drinks with them, blackpool funfair every year and the occasional cinema or theater.

scratchme1010

On behalf of the entire LGBT community, thank you.

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Any Others of the "Anointed"?

by Hernandez in

i was baptized in 1985, was a regular pioneer, ministerial servant, and on the way to becoming an elder when i left the witnesses in 1999. i also was one of those who claimed and (at the time ) believed i was one of the anointed.. i am wondering if there are any others here who also claimed they were of the anointed?

how did you come to that conclusion?

how do you feel about your claim now that you are out?.

scratchme1010

Thank you so much for sharing. This is very interesting. I know that it's quite a journey and a process for JWs who consider themselves not to be anointed, so I imagine that for you the process of leaving was a little steeper.

Anyway, you shared this:

I felt there was no other choice to make. It would be wrong to hope in a paradise earth, at least for me. I never excpected I would literally be punished by the Jehovah's Witnesses for believing the words of the Bible.

Could you elaborate a little more on this? I have a hard time understanding what makes some people believe that they are anointed. I know of many other JWs who feel and experience themselves all the things you did when started reading and studying the Bible, but they didn't feel like being one of the anointed. So my questions is, why the same bible study that many JWs have made you feel "chosen", where so many others, as fanatical as they become, still don't come to that conclusion?