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  WTBTS/CCJ.W.'s incriminate themselves

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we are deeply indebted to wifibandit for such revealing documentation.. https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5690963588546560/november-1-2016-all-bodies-elders-re-using-maintaining-kingdom-halls.

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  38. when property damage occurs, quick action can go far in preventing further damage.

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  It's no secret that the WT can't care less about the well being of children. That's the number one reason I have no respect for that organization.
  
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  Watch Tower Farms ?

  by Lostandfound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  may have missed this somewhere, but if bethel not providing meals anymore , what is point of the farms?.

  or are meals still provided with simple self service now, without the waiter service of decades?.

  seem to recall uk farm disposed of years ago as it cheaper to purchase requirements rather than sustain farm and its workers, was that the case?.

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  scratchme1010

  May have missed this somewhere, but if Bethel not providing meals anymore , what is point of the Farms?

  Or are meals still provided with simple self service now, without the waiter service of decades?

  Seem to recall UK farm disposed of years ago as it cheaper to purchase requirements rather than sustain farm and its workers, was that the case?

  They are in the business of real estate now, so if they haven't sold it to make more money, there has to be a financial, political or practical reason for them to keep the farm. Maybe they get money from it.
  
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  A sister at my door today

  by careful in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i suppose it was just a matter of time till it happened.

  i've faded, not been dfed or daed, for years now.

  once they tracked me down and tried to reactivate me, but then i moved, and hopefully lost them.

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  I really am thankful for the folks here who have informed me of the methods used today. If I had not been, I would have ignorantly asked about her tablet and then there would probably have been the RV. It really IS a return to the JFR phonographs, just modernized. One doesn't even get a biblical passage read any more. Maybe I should have asked for one of the GB's autographs—oops, no, THAT would have assured a RV!
  

  I'm glad to hear that you were able to handle the situation to your liking. Seems like that JW may not have been from your former congregation, so it may just be part of their typical proselytizing. Either way, by the way you share about it here seems like it didn't stir strong emotions.
  
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  New movie by Mel Gibson 'Hacksaw ridge'

  by barry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just went to a pre screening of this movie about an adventist guy who didn't want to kill but joined the army as a medic on the front line.

  desmond doss saved 75 men in one operation singlehanded on the island of okinawa where desmond worked lowering men down a 400ft cliff to safety.. i thought this may be of interest to jws because of the pacifist stand they also have.. the movie comes out on the 4 th november..

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  I thought this may be of interest to JWs because of the pacifist stand they also have.
  

  You know this is an EX-JW sit, right?
  
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  Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why were we ever a jw?

  were we mad?

  we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

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  JeffT is a perfect example of my point. One thing is people's intelligence and a different one is how people feel. I have a problem with labeling people or blaming them for making a foolish decision.

  Normally people who join do so for a number of reasons, none of them having anything to do with their level of intelligence. Many experts who study negative influence and brainwashing have determined that the reasons for people who join is because the organization appeals to either people's emotions (ranging from depression to their own ego) or timing (people encountering the WT at a time when they are about to make an important decision, at a time when they have experienced loss, or at a time when they want to make a significant change in their lives).

  None of those things have anything to do with a person's intelligence. Is joining an idiotic decision? Maybe. Dire consequences? Definitely. Should people be blamed or labeled as if there's something wrong with them for it? Absolutely not.
  
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  JW Facebook Groups

  by Nevuela in

  1. social
  2. current

  is anyone here familiar with the facebook group "jehovah's people: enduring these last days together"?

  it's a closed group, so obviously you need to be a member in order to access any info or posts.

  my anointed roommate is really frustrated because she's an admin and someone is taking miscellaneous posts from the group and posting it on their own page, which has the exact same name, minus the word "together.

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  Why is your anointed friend frustrated? Isn't the purpose of those groups to have a sense of community? Sounds a lot like jealousy.
  
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  C'mon, give my Cubbies some love!

  by JRK in

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  2. friends

  who finally wants the cubs to win a world series for the first time in 108 years?!.

  shout out the love, peeps!.

  jk.

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  I will implore all the baseball jehovah's to have them win (although I think that them being a good strong team will work better, just my opinion).
  
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  "The G.B. is neither inspired nor infallible"

  by smiddy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  that admission in the feb.17 ,study edition of the watchtower , " who is leading gods people today ?

  " "the governing body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction .".

  have the many jehovahs witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by jehovahs witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?.

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  That admission in the Feb.17 ,study edition of the Watchtower , " Who is Leading Gods People Today ?" "The Governing Body is neither inspired, nor infallible, therefore it (they/we) can err in Doctrinal matters or in organizational direction ."

  Have the many Jehovahs Witnesses past and present who have lost their lives by refusing blood transfusions due to the prohibition on blood tranfusions by Jehovahs Witnesses really got the sense of this statement ?

  Have the family ,relatives and friends of those who lost their loved ones due to the prohibition of blood transfusions by this religion come to grips with what this admission by the organization really means ?

  What they are really saying is , our doctrinal policy on no blood transfusions could be wrong , due to the fact we are not infallible and we can err.

  A point to consider : The Israelites / Jews were Gods chosen people for thousands of years and under his laws , I`m sure they would have a far better more informed understanding of the Old testament than anybody else , and they are certainly more strict than any JW about eating blood..Kosher food.etc.

  Many scriptures support the sanctity of life above the letter of the law., a fact that escapes the JW /GB mindset .

  What I understand is that it's never been about making sense. When a person's capacity to be reasonable and critical has been taken away by indoctrination an brainwashing, that person can't see anything wrong in pretty much any statement, no matter how off-the-wall it is.

  The WT is not (by far) the only nor the worst organization when it comes to playing games with people's important decisions. I know of people who have been violently attacked and left to die in the wilderness for not abiding the nonsense that the group expects them to do so.

  If you Google "negative effects of cults" or "negative effects of indoctrination" or "negative effects of brainwashing", you will discover a number of reliable sources (though some are not verifiable) stating the number of things that people have done based on blind believe and obedience in a given organization.

  The WT is responsible for having people do a number of things that have cause a lot of harm to themselves and loved ones. including letting people die over that no blood transfusion nonsense. That's why I have no respect for that organization.
  
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  Let's Be Honest - You or One of Your Ancestors Was an Idiot

  by Simon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  why were we ever a jw?

  were we mad?

  we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.

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  I find myself looking back more with pity than anger. I feel sorry for whoever brought the WTS into our families life. It's unlikely they did it maliciously and they were seeking to do the best thing for their family and their children. They failed, but then how many people really succeed at that. Many manage to do the worst for their offspring so there is something to be thankful for that we are not born elsewhere.
  

  Why do you take it on the people who joined? I think that's blaming the victim of a scam for getting scammed. What's more, intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with the negative influence, the indoctrination and brainwashing that people get submitted to.

  I am a born in, and during my time there in that organization I met and still now people who are quite intelligent and decided to join. Remember, one thing is the capacity for people to think and process information, another completely different thing is how a person feels and what their needs are.

  The Wt and other cults capitalize on people's needs and feelings, not on reasoning or critical thinking. When you look at why people decide to join, their reasons have not a thing to do with knowing or being able to analyze a piece of information.
  
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  Summer Regional Convention

  by miss.ives01 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone attended the sunday program of the summer regional convention, remain loyal to jehovah?.

  i have been very concerned about the tone of discussion surrounding sundays program.

  i went to friday and sat., not sunday.

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  Scratchme1010 I do have many concerns but I know they will pass. I will pursue what I pursued my entire life only in secret. The arts, science and mysteries... the unknown. I love our big world of info. I never could do anything witlhout guilt. I cant tell you how many time I got caught up on a painting and didnt study for the meeting. There I would sit with small remnants of paint on a nail and think I hope no one sees my unstudied lesson.

  No, life goes on. But pain does remain. I will fake it with my daughter and act as normal as possible. Try to act like nothing is wrong. As a witness, I have gotten good at faking. lol

  I'm really not good at it and I know I do it all in vain..

  I've been there. You'll get good at it