Posts by scratchme1010

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How did you feel when you got baptized?

by Schnufti in

back in 2005, i remember sitting in the stadium in the special rows with 42 others.

8000 people were looking at us - maybe even with a binocular - while listening to the speech.

my family and my friends among them, being all proud of me.. i don't remember being enthusiastic.

scratchme1010

Were you happy when you got baptized? Did you feel particularly "close to Jehovah"? Or did you want to stand up and hide in the toilet like me?

No, no and absolutely no.

First, my baptism was a joke. It was coerced. Second, when I was given the questions (do they still do that?) it was very obvious to the elder that I didn't know, nor cared about anything. However, all they knew is that I am gay and therefore their baptizing me was their magic cure to their problem with me being gay.

I took it so seriously that I was just looking at the naked other brothers who baptized with me in the changing room.

I'm not exactly the "hiding in the toilet" type. Looking back, I was in my early teens, it's so obvious that both my father and people in the congregation just wanted me to baptize as a way of keeping me in line. By now they all know that it didn't pan out as they planned.

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Which is worse according to the GB: Child Abuse or Apostasy??

by stuckinarut2 in

so we all know how the organization conducts itself regarding child abuse.

the multitude of legal cases worldwide including the current australian royal commission as well as anecdotal accounts prove their attitude.. perpetrators have not been reported to authorities, and data bases of such have been kept sealed even when demanded by the courts!.

however, when it comes to those of us who have simply left the organization due to learning the truth, the society spares no effort in spreading gossip and ensuring that one's name and reputation is ruined.. so gb, which crime is worse?

scratchme1010

You're comparing not believing in them with sexual assault of minors. You tell me, what does that look like?

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Does this sound familiar??

by stuckinarut2 in

https://www.lds.org/topics/apostasy?lang=eng&old=true.

change a few words and expressions, and it could have come from the governing body themselves!.

scratchme1010

Change a few words and expressions, and it could have come from the Governing Body themselves!

I'm sure that there has to be somebody from that church citing us and saying "Change a few words and expressions, and it could have come from Intellectual Reserve, Inc."

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This is What I Would Need in Order to Believe

by cofty in

sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.

various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.

i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.

scratchme1010

Interesting thoughts, cofty. I agree, any tweet today is by far more reliable than any bible verse. A god who claims that has such important messages and wants to save as many people from... whatever made up thing they claim we should be saved, wouldn't communicate and perform miracles at the time when humanity was the less developed and naive about everything.

Thanks for sharing.

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The Rainbow Promise

by Funchback in

one day, the biblical god decided all humanity, less 8 individuals and some animals, should die via mass drowning, including infants, children and physically and mentally disabled people.. he expected rational people to listen to a seemingly oddball old man and enter a giant box filled with wild animals.

"god told me to warn you.

enter this thing and you will live".

scratchme1010

This is one of the many reasons why I could never align myself to God. Even if He did exist, I would have nothing in common with Him.

As I read your post, this came to mind:

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Most Widely Circulated Magazine In The World

by Calebs Airplane in

which magazine is now the most widely circulated in the world?.

before responding, keep in mind that certain parameters (such as content and page count) ought to be met before any printed material intended for mass distribution can be categorized as a “magazine”.

for example, the absolute minimum range for any publication to be considered a magazine is typically around 32 to 48 pages while the highest page counts are usually around 128 to 160, with some popular women’s fashion magazines coming in quite a bit higher than that.. so with that said, which is now the world’s most widely circulated magazine?.

scratchme1010

I'd say the Watchtower magazine. It's the only one that gets written, edited, translated, printed and distributed with absolutely free labor.

If the WT had to pay for all of that, I'm quite sure that they would be in the completely opposite position.

I share stuckinarut2's sentiment too. Just because that magazine is on your face all the time doesn't mean that it's good for you, or for anything for that matter.

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The "Paradise" as promised by the Watchtower

by Saethydd in

i was thinking today about the descriptions of the future "paradise" presented by the watchtower, and i was struck by something about it.

most of us are aware that the watchtower promotes an interpretation of the apocalypse that would result in the immediate execution of 99.9% of the population with no hope for resurrection.

additionally, we have been told about the large group of people that are supposed to side with satan at the end of the thousand year reign of christ.

scratchme1010

If I remember well...

Namely, any individual who has a difference of opinion with God after the thousand year reign of Christ was over.

Those are not supposed to be a separate class. The way the WT and many Christian religions work is by promoting this black and white mentality. The very second that anyone has/voices a doubt about Jehovah they become a member of Team Satan immediately. It's a for/against thing. There's no middle ground.

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If you had the opportunity to create religious doctrine from scratch,what rule would your church or nation have?

by Chook in

would you teach a heaven , hell, jesus , paradise.

what rule structure for discipline ect ,ect,.

scratchme1010

Another if, fantasy, will never ever happen scenario. Ok, I'd let things exactly the way they are. In fact, the scenario doesn't make sense. First, today we do have the capacity of forming our own religion, second that fantasy scenario seems based on the premise that no other religion or way of thinking actually exist.

Anyway, since this is a never existed and never will scenario, I'd say I'd let thinks exactly the way they are since people are free to choose to believe whatever they choose, and because of the fact that anyone can come up with their own religion from scratch anyway.

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Doctors visit for postrate

by smiddy in

my friend related to me that when he went for a check up at the doctors he was advised to get his prostate checked at first he baulked at that prospect thinking no man is going to put his finger up where the sun dont shine,.

his doctor reasoned with him that it is better for him to find out if something is wrong early because it can be dealt with a good chance of recovery however leave it too late and it can be fatal.. my friend being convinced agrees to the examination .. doctor : drop your dacks get up on the examination table and assume the position where i can examine you.. my friend : turns his head round to the doctor and asks doc why are you using two fingers ?.

the doctor replies ,i want to get a second opinion ..

scratchme1010

I see it from the doctors perspective. People have that thing done once (or maybe once every so many years), whereas the doctor has to put his finger in who knows how many anuses before going back home to have dinner with his family in a given day.

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Is Jehovah God guilty of the Sin of Omission ?

by smiddy in

in genesis ch.1&2 god warns adam that if he ate of the tree of knowledge of good and bad he would die .theire was nothing said about anything else.. you would expect humans would just die of old age like adam and eve did.. the wages of sin is death the bible tells us .so if he disobeyed jehovah god he knew he would die .. what he never knew and neither did any other human to come after him was just how many ways death would come to humans.. death by creatures that were created by god venomous creatures ,snakes spiders etc.,marine creatures sharks etc., bacteria /viruses etc.,insect carrying diseases such as the mosquito that causes thousands of deaths to children under 5 years old even today with malaria.,wild animals etc,.leprosy that even existed under theocratic rule in the nation of israel.. then their is the indignties humans go through in old age ,loss of bodily functions , mental capacity ,alzheimers ,neurological diseases that effect young and old.that reduce people to almost live not much better than a vegetable .

natural disasters not to be excluded because these are in the control of god to afflict mankind or not.. the list of afflictions that humans have to suffer through before they die , from a loving god just boggles my mind.. and i have only scratched the surface of indignities humans have faced before they die.. so i ask the question is god jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ?

or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.. what are your thoughts ?.

scratchme1010

So I ask the question is GOD Jehovah guilty of the sin of omission ? Or did he act out of vengeance for their disobedience and wanted to inflict greater punishment upon them.for disobeying him.
What are your thoughts ?

It's all based on faulty logic, simplistic interpretations and explanations, and in events that never happened. There was never a talking snake, never an Adam, never some tree, never some sin, never a Jehovah, hence, a Jehovah that never existed cannot be guilty of any sin, which BTW, that sin thing is also made up.