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  Will the Watchtower Corporation continue to lie and deceive just to sustain itself into the future ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the wts has been selling and promoting christ's return and the end times since the late 1800's, right through all of the 20th century and still continues today on the same core doctrinal premise.. 1914 was set as a year of christ taking position upon his heavenly throne followed by choosing the wts as his earthly guided organization in 1919 according to the wts.

  leaders at that time.. the actual truth is that the wts is a publishing house and it was inherently pressed to make up doctrines which would gravitate attention to its published goods, accurate and honest bible interpretation was a second lesser concern.. the original heads of this religious publishing house (c t russell) first proclaimed that christ had returned in 1874 and 1914 was going to be the year jesus was going to cleanse the earth of all wickedness etc.

  this was obviously a false doctrine tainted with ignorance and a bit of commercialization in reality.. so the question remains what will the wts do in the future, what will the wts do as far as doctrines to allure the general public at large ?

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  scratchme1010

  Will the Watchtower Corporation continue to lie and deceive just to sustain itself into the future ?
  

  Yes.
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  Don't you think that some people are just better off within the org?

  by paradiseseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my first post, i will introduce myself later.

  first of all, i must say that english is not my mother tongue (i'm spanish), so excuse me if i make any mistake.. do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the jws?

  some of them are too worldlyphobic to be around non-jws, too dependent on a fixed set of rules in order to carry on with their lives, too dependent on the hope of paradise and resurrection, too unable to leave their personal comfort zone within the organization.

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  scratchme1010

  Do you think that some people simply can't cope with being outside the JWs?
  

  Bienvenido al foro.

  Not only I agree with you 100%, but professionals in the matter who have done research and dedicate their careers to study groups like the WT also agree.

  I'm personally friends with people who help people who have lost loved ones to cults. Before intervening with the person, they make an entire assessment of their family, looking for the environment in which the person will come back to if he/she leaves the cult. Sometimes their recommendation has been that they are better off in the cult for several reasons:

  1. The family environment is that horrible
  2. They don't have a better place to come to
  3. They are not really in a cult; the family just want to control the person
  4. The person's mental health issues are too severe and there's no support for the person outside
  5. The cult is actually taking care of important aspects of the person't life, that otherwise he/she could not get
  6. The person doesn't have the life skills necessary to deal with life

  There are many reasons why some people are better off being part of an organization that gives them structure that otherwise they wouldn't get (or they perceive that they wouldn't get).

  I am very happy that I'm not one of those people.
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  Local elder dies of starvation

  by Steel in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well , not really.. our hall recently had a secret collection for our head elder who is almost on the verge of becoming homeless.

  i guess he lost some cleaning contracts because his clients were just sick of his no shows because of his pioneer work.

  there is always something more important to do than earn a living.. this is the same assholes he is always shaming people to not doing enough.

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  This is the same assholes he is always shaming people to not doing enough. For putting their careers over handing out magazines no one wants.
  

  Dad, is that you?
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  Anointed Delusions of Grandeur

  by Kohanic in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so here is something i've been wondering about.

  how do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen?

  is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?.

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  How do the 'anointed' come to the conclusion that they are chosen? Is it some weird collective delusion of grandeur and how is it manifested in such ones?

  Im especially curious as my hall has 2 'anointed' ones and they are both kind of weird in terms of personality and mannerisms. Thoughts?

  Their invisible friends tell them.
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  Singing todays WT

  by road to nowhere in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the jist was that we all should sing.

  then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

  the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

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  The old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".
  

  The old hymns were plagiarized from other people's musical work.
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  Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?

  by Brian J in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  according to the 11/2017 study watchtower.......apparently not.

  is it really true that one can be happy without religion?

  certainly an individual can be happy without false religion, but a person cannot be truly happy unless he has a relationship with jehovah, who is described as “the happy god.” (1 tim.

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  Is Happiness Without Religion Possible?
  

  Yes.

  According to the 11/2017 Study Watchtower.......apparently not.
  

  The WT is no different than most-to-all religions in that respect.
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  Nice quote

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  with christmas gorby had a good talk with his jw father about “time tends to fly” and how everything changes.. he concluded: “if our grandparents would visit the kingdom hall now, they would headshaking left the building and never returned.”.

  it says something, does it?.

  g..

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  Makes me feel sorry for my father, who is still alive and experiencing all that. Just sad.
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  Who Do JWs Fear The Most? Top Five

  by Fred Franztone in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a fear-based religion, at its core.

  jws fear many things, but what or who do they fear the most?

  let's find out.... 5) satan.

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  I'd say:

  1. Their own beings (their own thoughts, their intuition, having their own values and morals)
  2. People who chose not to keep their Jehovah crap (they call them apostates)
  3. Elders and JCs
  4. Their Jehovah
  5. Armageddon
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  Prophecy question as hysteria sets in

  by Isambard Crater in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a load of j.w's in my family and the congregation i attend as a pimo have been saying the end is very close because the anglo american world superpower is clearly still the king of the south, and russia is now clearly king of the north due to persecuting and banning the religion there and seizing property.. i've forgot what the religion used to teach and maybe still does, about the timing of all this king of north + south stuff, the attack on all religion by the u.n and then the attack on j.w's who will be left standing.

  i mean, i thought jehovah was going to put it into the u.n's minds to ban or attack all other religions, then the attack on j.w's, but witnesses seem to think the end is so, so close because russia has banned them.. it's sad, as some dubs i know have sold their homes and made other big decisions so they can pioneer in these 'very last of the last days'..

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  Prophecy question as hysteria sets in
  

  Is there any other reason for prophecy to exist?
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  Is it 16?

  by Jrjw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi can anyone tell me if it's true the society says parents must take their child to meetings until they're 16 even if they don't want to?

  my ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.

  he doesn't know i'm becoming inactive at moment so i have to be careful how i word things to him.

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  My ex is being a pain about me not forcing my 12 year old to be a witness.
  

  I'm sure there are reasons why he's an ex. Look at the bigger picture. Learn to parent together. The sooner the better.