Posts by scratchme1010

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Political Correctness

by snugglebunny in

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i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.

ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.

the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.

scratchme1010

I sometimes wonder if PC is actually driving folk into one extreme opinion or the other. IMHO, continually labelling people with the 'ist or 'phobe tag actually does nothing at all except polarise the person who isn't conforming to our own grand ideas. OMG - he called me an 'obe! I'd better change my views immediately! Yeah, that works....snort. Oh, and BTW, anyone who simply can't resist hanging an 'obe or an 'ist label on me after being infuriated by this post should know that I am indeed, globophobic. So there.

My two cents. I live in USA, culturally I'm not American, I am gay, I am dark, I speak with an accent, I'm not young and I have a disability. So I know one or two things about isms in this country. You want to dislike me for any ism, you will find a reason for it.

If a person like you tells me that you have no problem with me for being ___________, I may be skeptical at first, may start trusting you gradually, but I will definitely match your words with your actions. If you make a remark that I find offensive, or establish an opinion on any social issue that I disagree on, or just say something I don't like hearing, I don't go around labeling people an 'obe or 'ist.Depending on how relevant that person is, I may or may not address any issue with that person directly. The only people I'd characterize as an 'obe or 'ist are those who openly admit to be so.

Yes, I do see a number of people who are all about ranting about being discriminated against, claiming discrimination very time that they do something wrong and are told, or using their "minority" status to get things. But I am very clear about the difference between having an opinion and intending to offend and shun people based on race, and I am pretty capable, intelligent and skillful to accomplish pretty much what I want in spite of.

And then there are a number of people who truly believe in equality, that is until a minority person out performs him/her. There are a number of people who are full of themselves and claim that they are not racist (they just happen to never relate to anyone of a different race than them). So if you feel scrutinized for what you claim, please understand that there are a number of people who like you claim to believe in equality, but (probably unlike you), are full of nonsense and their actions show otherwise.

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The UN Files - Print Out And Keep For Your Next JW Visitor

by pale.emperor in

i've been researching the wt and the un involvement.

when i was still in and i first seen the un letter online, my cognitive dissonance kicked and i told myself it'll be a fake.

an apostate lie.. and seeing as no jw i've spoken to has ever heard of it, and flatly deny any involvement "no, they wouldn't do that", i decided to do a little "personal study" of my own.

scratchme1010

I find this useful for people who need to bother trying to show them reality. Personally, I find it easier to just tell them to eff off.

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And they say WE are the negative and bitter ones?!?

by stuckinarut2 in

was just thinking how the society has fervently promoted the idea and direct teaching that all who leave are "bitter, negative, twisted, and mentally diseased" etc... yes, they say that those who leave are at fault.

all who leave are wrong and destined to die.. yet, they are the ones who dwell on such negative thinking!

most who fade or leave do so for matters of concience, yet just want to get on with life.

scratchme1010

Why doesn't the society allow open communication, feedback and discussion, or allow ones to leave free of ridicule? Why promote bitterness and hate?

I think that this bitterness and negativity is common in most-to-all religion. The negativity is to feed people's fear that there's nothing else in the world but depending on their organization. The hate and bitterness promotion comes from the fact that they all claim to be the one and only groups who has the truth, that it's right about everything. Therefore, nothing and nobody else outside is worth of any kind words. Also there's this grandiosity that many people who claim to be in the one and only truth feel, so there's no real need to be considerate, compassionate or nice. Finally, they are only nice and "compassionate", and show respect for other people when and only when it fits their agenda, that is, gaining converts or get something done to accommodate their believes.

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It is absolutely galling to me that my wife submits herself to this madness

by jambon1 in

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i've tried to get over this, i honestly have.

since i stopped my kids going to meetings, things have gotten a little better.. but knowing the content of the convention programme that she was subjected to on friday, it amazes me and greatly annoys me that she goes back for more, today.

for her to sit there watching those crazy, fear mongering bunker videos.

scratchme1010

Brainwashing has nothing to do with how good or intelligent a person is. If you look at the makeup of the people both in and out of that organization, they are all from different walks of life with different degrees of intelligence, personal values and qualities.

Unfortunately, getting sucked up into the brainwashing cult doesn't discriminate.

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Rank & file are seeing the money-grubbing

by Zoos in

spoke with a fellow apostate from my own area.

she and i bailed out about the same time and kept in touch.. she used to do secular work with one of the local elders in his cleaning business until she got dfed.

this same elder was one of the more profound dickheads on my reinstatement committee, before i turned around two years later and daed.. business required her to contact the elder on behalf of an old client.

scratchme1010

Many people are growing disappointed at what's going on. I think that many of their changes are inevitable so the consequences are what we get now.

I feel sorry for some members of my family of origin who have been in that org all their lives, only to end up in this disarray. Sad.

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Inactive ones talk... some lies I noticed

by purrpurr in

the brother giving the saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".. he said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.. and also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year .

bs!

totally bs!.

scratchme1010

The brother giving the Saturday"inactive ones helping them to return".
He said, this year the society has been making an effort to contact all inactive ones.
And also... the elders visit all the inactive ones at least once a year
BS! Totally BS!
Also he said that if any of the flock make contact with an inactive one they must tell the elders immediately. Hmm? I wonder why?

They don't want to talk to people who are (a) aware of what's really going on there, (b) angry and mad at the WT for what they do to people's lives, particularly those born in, and (c) are doing better after leaving. It really is challenging to try to convince people to go back on top of the rest of responsibilities. They don't get paid for any of it. So my guess is that they look for every possible excuse to skip talking to some people, and they go talk to one or two who they figure don't pose a risk to them.

They have absolutely no interest in helping anyone. That's for sure.

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Listing Bros cv's in their intro

by purrpurr in

at the assembly i noticed something new and disturbing.

when a brother is introduced before a talk the audience is now given their life history/ major accomplishments .. "brother arsehole who served at bethal for five years, pioneered in the foreign language territory for ten years, is an elder in x congregation and serves in the construction projects blah blah blah".

this puffing up never used to happen?

scratchme1010

Actually, I remember in the early 80s an article featuring some person from the GB. The article was all about him, so no, I don't think that that's new.

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Rumor: Discouraging news from GB at upcoming CA?

by bohm in

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this is on the reddit frontpage and sounds super weird.

can it be confirmed in any way by anyone here?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/4u72dk/what_kind_of_announcement_could_cause_jws_to/.

scratchme1010

Who cares? There's nothing that those people can announce that will make me think about them. They always have some kind of "special" announcement.

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Are they either leaving or going full on 'cult mode'? No quarter.

by punkofnice in

it might just be me imagining things.. i hear things from my jw spies.. from all that's being said, it seems to me that the rank and file(tm), are either waking up to the scam and fading/leaving.

they are going full on 'cult mode' and acting like 'spiritual police'.. is it just me and my imagination?

have others noticed this?.

scratchme1010

Is it just me and my imagination? Have others noticed this?

My opinion, and this is just logical reasoning, is that the Internet has open a door for all JWs who are in doubt and those ex-JWs to find each other and compare notes. Seems like the JW police does lurk around and seems to be catching up with people who are fading. I think they are aware of what people are doing when they start missing meetings, and they don;t want to make it easy for people.

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Racial Insensitivity

by Coded Logic in

"blue" lives matter!

- sheriff david clarke at the rnc.

this bs really makes my blood boil.

scratchme1010

This BS really makes my blood boil. We give our cops extensive training, specially modified cars, bullet proof vests, batons, mace, tasers, guns, and radios to call for back up so they can protect themselves and so they can stay safe. Even more important, every single police officer SIGNS UP FOR THE JOB!
Do not for one second compare the hazards of being a cop with the unjustified killings of unarmed black men. Do not for one second think you can compare the honor filled funerals of fallen police officers where mayors come out and talk about "duty" and "patriotism" - with the unceremonious body bags of black victims who's every infraction and misdemeanor is touted before the press as public officials attempt to vilify the innocent.
If we treated our African-American brothers 1/10th as well as we treat our cops no one would ever need to say the words "black lives matter".

Just keeping it about the original post. Coded Logic, I'm with you. Politicians and all the people with power immediately want to appeal to "humanity" as soon as it's the police. They never have the same attitude towards any people of color. No one deserves to get killed for no reason other than hatred or racism.

Whoever thinks that's is a fallacy black men are getting killed left and right, and that this country isn't full of racism and hate, lives like an ostrich.

The killing in this country is out of control. And for as long as it's considered "horrible" only when it's the cops, things are never going to improve.