Posts by scratchme1010

here's a conversation i just had with my relative a few minutes ago i'll let you decide.. relative : would you like to read your grandfather the days txt (she passes joe the phone).

joe : sure.

(then proceed to read it to my grandfather and explain it).. after discussing the points joe says to relative.. hey what's the story arnt they printing books any more.. relative : no they arnt necessary any more.. joe : really why is that.. relative : it's all on line.

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Well it's never been like that,

I think that attitude is the real cancer in religious organizations. All of them.

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Horror and Paradise For Jehovah's Witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tteo_jp4aee .

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The saddest thing is that few people seem to see the connection between that kind of instruction and overall people's disregard for human life.

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Jeehoober says we can clap for reinstated ones!!

by DATA-DOG in

so, i guess an upcoming wt has some new light on clapping!

evidently, jesus has misinformed the gb/wtbts since the late 90's.

clapping was disrespectful, because jesus felt that those who were df'd should not be given a pat on the back.

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That doesn't seem reasonable to me.

Hmmm... they claim that they are the one and only truth, that those GB people are appointed directly by their "Jehovah", that people are going to live 1,000 years, that 144,000 idiots are going to heaven, that you are better death than living after getting a blood transfusion, that you don't need education other than the one they claim they provide, and they demand you to shun your own family members who don't believe their nonsense. Clapping for a person who for some bizarre reason decides to return to that crap doesn't seem like the biggest deal breaker to me.

Call me crazy, but to me there are quite a few unreasonable things in that cult.

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How many members of Governing Body have college(or higher) degrees?

by intropist in

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i just wonder what universities they would have gone to?

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if possible, former members and current ones separately.... .

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If possible, former members and current ones separately...

What's the purpose of this part?

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World Youth Day in Poland

by TheWonderofYou in

in the video of the world youth day "spread message of divine mercy" the young people are called witnesses of christ's church.

i am now watching the happy young people.. introduction words even in english at youtube 9:07. .

anyone here understands polish too?.

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Ilk!

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Something's Gotta Give

by pale.emperor in

i've been 100% alone since my df last month.

i'm dead to my family now, unless i return to their cult - so i recently made contact with 3 former jw's that were in my cong when i was in my youth.

to my surprise, they all had exactly the same doubts and reasoning i had and said even though they've been out 6-7 years they "still feel tied to it in some way" and "feel guilty celebrating xmas or birthdays".

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Some changes have to come in in order to maintain control surely?

I think yes and no. I wouldn't surprise me if the cult continue doing exactly the same thing even if they lose people. remember, they have alternatives. They are not in the business of caring for their people; they are in the business of money. They are in the real estate business now and they are doing well, so who cares about being less people. They will find some kind of biblical reason to do what they have.

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Political Correctness

by snugglebunny in

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i think i'm just ornery when it comes to equality.

ever since i can remember, i've always believed that all people were created equal.

the colour of a person's skin is irrelevent to me.

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I sometimes wonder if PC is actually driving folk into one extreme opinion or the other. IMHO, continually labelling people with the 'ist or 'phobe tag actually does nothing at all except polarise the person who isn't conforming to our own grand ideas. OMG - he called me an 'obe! I'd better change my views immediately! Yeah, that works....snort. Oh, and BTW, anyone who simply can't resist hanging an 'obe or an 'ist label on me after being infuriated by this post should know that I am indeed, globophobic. So there.

My two cents. I live in USA, culturally I'm not American, I am gay, I am dark, I speak with an accent, I'm not young and I have a disability. So I know one or two things about isms in this country. You want to dislike me for any ism, you will find a reason for it.

If a person like you tells me that you have no problem with me for being ___________, I may be skeptical at first, may start trusting you gradually, but I will definitely match your words with your actions. If you make a remark that I find offensive, or establish an opinion on any social issue that I disagree on, or just say something I don't like hearing, I don't go around labeling people an 'obe or 'ist.Depending on how relevant that person is, I may or may not address any issue with that person directly. The only people I'd characterize as an 'obe or 'ist are those who openly admit to be so.

Yes, I do see a number of people who are all about ranting about being discriminated against, claiming discrimination very time that they do something wrong and are told, or using their "minority" status to get things. But I am very clear about the difference between having an opinion and intending to offend and shun people based on race, and I am pretty capable, intelligent and skillful to accomplish pretty much what I want in spite of.

And then there are a number of people who truly believe in equality, that is until a minority person out performs him/her. There are a number of people who are full of themselves and claim that they are not racist (they just happen to never relate to anyone of a different race than them). So if you feel scrutinized for what you claim, please understand that there are a number of people who like you claim to believe in equality, but (probably unlike you), are full of nonsense and their actions show otherwise.

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The UN Files - Print Out And Keep For Your Next JW Visitor

by pale.emperor in

i've been researching the wt and the un involvement.

when i was still in and i first seen the un letter online, my cognitive dissonance kicked and i told myself it'll be a fake.

an apostate lie.. and seeing as no jw i've spoken to has ever heard of it, and flatly deny any involvement "no, they wouldn't do that", i decided to do a little "personal study" of my own.

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I find this useful for people who need to bother trying to show them reality. Personally, I find it easier to just tell them to eff off.