Posts by scratchme1010

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I'm Fed up and I can't take it anymore!

by MTSman in

i was born in four gen, been d.f.d.

for about eight years now.

my father had always been a true company man, although more times than i can count, he's always been floppy.

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I said, "Call me when he or my mother is in the hospital or dead." I'm done. I really love my family and friends that I left behind, but I just cannot stomach the self-righteousness. I can deal with the flip flops, and the whole 700 Clubifiying remake, but as far as the self-righteousness, can't do it. I've never been that way. I've always hated those who were that way and it appears that the more this fucking group evolves the more arrogant and self-righteous they get. I was so heated and hateful towards this fucking religion that I've pretty much resolved to never go back and therefore never talk to or see my parent's again.

Just to put this out there. The way I dealt with that nonsense from my family was by flipping the story. I disfellowshipped them. I shunned them. They have the responsibility of looking and reaching out for me. That made wonders.

You are acting exactly the way the WT wants you to. You are in the victim role, in the receiving end. Reverse psychology makes wonders.

For as long as they are the ones calling the shots, you will be in the position of being mistreated. Change the story.

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jw celebrity advert in gey newspaper

by closed in

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i think is rather funny.

the king in gay magazine😁 but business is business, isn't it?.

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It's not an advertising. JWs have no control over where the press publishes.

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You Need to Heal

by TheLiberator in

it has been awhile since i posted.

but i wanted to say a few things that may help those recovering from the watchtower, especially if you have just discovered ttatt.

it is with humility that i come here to express these thoughts.

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YOU MUST ALLOW TIME TO PASS IN ORDER TO HEAL.

Thank you so much for your post. I have posted time and time again, especially in this forum, that a lot of ex-JWs and poeple who are questioning their faiths tend to focus too much or exclusively in believes, doctrines and teachings of the WT versus other religions. When you read the posts, almost all use knowledge and not feelings as a way to remove themselves from the WT's negative influence. Your post is very well appreciated.

There was another post that mentions a person that has been out for decades and decided to return to the JWs. I mention that post because that is a good example that although what I quoted from you is on point (I myself took almost two decades to be in a place where I can feel OK with my relationship with the JWs), there more to do, which is something that I feel I need to point out out of concern for others being mislead.

Yes, takes time, but yes, it also takes work on yourself, that is
Understanding that the WT has made a negative impression in your life
Understanding that the negative influence of the WT has affected the way we thing, the way we make decisions
Understanding that the WT's negative effect of the WT makes you doubt yourself, feel bad, even ashamed, of trusting your own instinct.

I mention this because decades can pass and if those things are never addressed, there may not be much or any healing.

I also mention this because in your post you mention that you chose not to seek professional help. I highly recommend seeking professional help from professionals who understand the effects of high controlling, highly demanding groups, such as the WT. That worked for myself really well.

Neither approach is wrong, nor better than the other. I think it's relevant, in the spirit of healing, to know that there are options available out there.

Again, thank you for your post.

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Can't do toasts

by Xanthippe in

i just phoned my cousin who's never been a jw.

last week she went with her son-in-law and my jw sister for a meal after planting a tree at her daughter's grave.

she said when my sister was dropped off at her house her husband said you do know she can't have toast.

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I think he's being a little childish and disrespectful. At the end of the day, as nonsensical as the JW believes and practices are, they are to be respected. I have no respect for the WT organization and if it was up to me they wouldn't exist, but that behavior does nothing other than make the JW feel bad, as if the WT doesn't already do a great job at it.

That wasn't nice.

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Did you ever experience true kindness in the Org?

by HereIgo in

i remember when i was about 17, i started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped.

when i graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " i know you are not supposed to talk to me, but i want you to have this" it was a gift that he had custom made for me.

i was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before.

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I remember when I was about 17, I started shunning an older brother because he was disfellowshipped. When I graduated high school, he pulled me aside and said " I know you are not supposed to talk to me, but I want you to have this" It was a gift that he had custom made for me. I was so blown away, we never even had a real conversation before. I felt like such an asshole, even back then. It goes to show how corrupt the Org is and how far just simple christian kindness will go.

No, I never experienced true kindness from a JW, or I should clarify, never from a real in JW. There were one or two people who were nice to me and supportive, but they all ended up disfellowshipped, faded or disassociated. Never once, not one active JW in good standing was nice to me, including my own family.

In another post about a defining moment, I talked about this one day when I met this happy Dominican woman. Observing her made me feel inspired and that's when i made the decision of going to college. What I actually realized is that what had a strong impression in me about that person was that it was the first time in my life when i saw a person genuinely, legitimately happy, truly joyful. As a born in, all I grew up seeing were people wearing glazed happy faces, bragging about how better they are for being in their stupid "truth", feeding their ego and feeling superior by it, or people using their Jehovah as a magic cure to all their issues.

I don't remember seeing a JW truly happy, hence, their so-called kindness always had a hidden agenda attached and a there was a catch to it.

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A Brother refusing to pray?

by HereIgo in

i remember there was a brother in my congregation while i was in who would comment at all meetings but if asked to pray at a meeting or meeting for service he would always politely refuse.

i always found it odd, i assumed as a young bro, that a bro was kind of obligated to pray if asked.

knowing what i know now, it could have been a guilty conscience or maybe he just wanted to be lowkey.

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Has anyone else seen or heard of this?

No, and thought it could be a reprove, it could have also been good old discomfort or shyness.

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Has the rebranding worked?

by MrTheocratic in

it's been several years since the start of the rebranding of jehovahs witnesses.

i believe it started with the website change.

ever since then the religion has moved in a more modern direction.

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What do you guys think and see? Has the rebranding been a success or bust?

Neither. It's just a smoke cloud. The WT is no longer depending on their people nor in selling literature. They are now in the real estate business. They make money out of real estate, with gazillions of dollars given to them for free as a startup when all the KHs were turned over to them.

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How many times did you see a JW start a business

by karter in

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with the intention of spending less time working and more time in f.s i saw this many times.

an ex c.o started a carpet cleaning business with the charter being spending less time working more time in f.s.

he has long since passed away and the company is now huge being the major player in flood resteration and employing 100's of people one of the owners i spoke to recently was sick due to using to many chemicals but carries on becouse he loves the money even though he's worth millions.

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I've never seen any decision made based on the JW nonsense bear anything good or on the interest of the JWs making it.

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Do you still go to meetings?

by NikL in

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as i was sitting in the meeting last night i thought about this question.. sometimes it feels really lonely because i don't connect with most others in the congregation and i have to be so careful with the ones with whom i do associate.. quick rundown on my life...got baptized at 17...married at 20...became inactive at 28 wife still active though...came back to meetings with her 20 years later just to keep her quiet and see if they had changed (for a while i actually thought they had)...now i am still inactive and haven't gone out in service or anything.

i just go to meetings with my wife who is happy as a lark to have me there with her...just go to meetings and think...and think...and think.... anyway, i just wondered if there are any out there like me who are going to meetings and nothing else?.

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NikL, thanks for clarifying.

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If You Could Ask the GB Or One Of Its Members...

by Cold Steel in

...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?

historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

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...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be? Historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.

First, what do you mean "if"? You can ask any question to them.

Second, If I could (which I believe I can) I still wouldn't bother. I have more important things to do.