apart from the fact that they have mainly followed in the footsteps of christendom before them what virgin territories have they ever gone to that christendom before them has not gone to .
i would think none.. how many lands ,countrys ,are their that they have never made any significant inroads into ?.
we are not talking about token service in any of these countrys in major cities , but a real door to door witness to every individual householder that gets it every few months as in western lands.. some that i can think of : north korea ,mainland china , bangladesh ,india , pakistan , jordan , israel , iran , syria ,burma ( sorry cant think of the new name ).
JW.Org claims they have fullfilled Jesus command to preach in all the inhabited earth.Have they really done that ? I dont think so.
I don't think so either. Even if they have accomplished that geographically, as time passes, they have newer generations that may need preaching. Their premise in that respect has never made sense.
I don't think that the way finallysomepride is handling this thread is ok, but I do share some of the same sentiment. However, there's always good 'ol fashion, "YOU DON'T NEED TO REPLY, MOVE ON".
... but, they fail to take note of one important detail.. i believe that if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a jw about blood, this is the place we need to begin.. don't try to convince them that it was only a dietary law.
it wasn't, and they will never go along with it.. don't tell them that saving a life is more important than obeying a law, even a seemingly trivial one.
they take pride in obedience.
...if we are going to have any chance of reasoning with a JW about blood...
I stopped reading here.
(original version posted 2014).
notice: the following is submitted in full recognition of and with compassion and due respect for those who, due to personal circumstance, feel they are unable to employ this powerful strategy.. ---.
anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious true-believer from a celebrated multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
AMNESIANO, great post. I can't remember the year of my last super, I mean, the last memorial I attended, but it's been quite a few decades. I do remember that not attending was the first time when my family had no choice but to admit that I was serious about not being a JW.
· if religions were immune to division.
· if scriptures were immune to scientific errors.
· if religious leaders were immune to hypocrisy.
That means theists created atheists.
That is 100% true. My JW parents made me.
i just 'liked' the same post 6 times in a row.. what a joke simon.
sort it out!.
I just 'liked' the same post 6 times in a row.
What a joke Simon. Sort it out!
You know that life is more than a like button, right?
during my time dealing with the jw, i was always a bit annoyed by the whole "use god's name" thing.. one day i asked somebody the following:.
"if i murder and torture a child, and claim to do it in jehovah's name, who did i serve.
if i rescue, comfort, and help heal the same, and claim to do it in the name of satan, who then did i serve?".
Really, I think, all you gotta know is that God is Love.
Or that there's not such thing as good, and we as humans don't need god to do and be all the good things that you list.
msoneone of fb sent me this.
looks like they know they're being exposed as the frauds they are.
this plus the theme of the next convention "don't give up" just reeks of desperation.. stash: /intesoft-inc.appspot.com/post/b21fe47ca2644a0ea2f6e28fe6401145.html
I remember that every now and then there was some kind of shakeup like that in assemblies and other special events, but it seems like now it is a common occurrence. I feel bad for the JWs who have been in there for a long time and this is what they are now facing. Sad.
i'm currently writing what i've decided to call a "thesis on doubting the watchtower," and was wondering if you guys could help me out a bit with the research.
my plan is to use it as a sort of personal reference.
if any of you could help me find the publications i'm looking for i would appreciate it.. as things stand i need:.
Sure, can you send me a copy or a link to the copies? Also, do they have any sort of authentic seal so I can be fairly sure the transcripts weren't just made up?
They are pdf files made of the official transcripts from the court documents. Yest they are official documents. Please send me a PM with an email address I can send them to.
and i can't wish him a happy birthday.
they converted when i was an infant, so birthdays were never a thing for us.
still, i'd love to be able to throw him a party, surround him with friends and family, and show him how much he's appreciated.
Use the trick that my JW mother did. She always called her children in her birthdays., She just called to ask how are we, and in the conversation she would squeeze in something like, you know it was a day like to day that I gave birth to you, as if it was a coincidence. She always acknowledged my birthday.
I hope that works for you if you feel it's difficult to do it the traditional, normal way.
