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  Do JWs wonder why never converted someone that knows the Bible?

  by Counter-Watchtower in

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  8 years ago

  my experience with jws that came to my house started me on a journey of learning the truth about "jehovah's organization".

  it didnt take long for me to stump them with bible questions that show what jw org teaches is not biblically accurate.

  i hope when i lay on them 6 pages of their history (which will later be a counter-watchtower magazine) the light will come on when they read about pyramids and see photos.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  The question is do they ever wonder why they have never converted someone that really knows the Bible? That can quote scripture, that knows when then they use a verse that its out of context? Everytime they come over I leave them stumped with questions, why do they keep coming back? Is it because i came to a Wednesday service one night?
  

  That's not accurate. Not a more common occurrence, but yes, I have known of people who know the bible and even have studied theology in college, and still became JWs.

  Aside from what Wake Me Up stated, there are many other things to consider. Some people can go studying and discussing the Bible ad-nauseam, but they do not see the entire picture if they don't look closer to the real reason why people join the JWs, religion in general, or any groups for that matter. Most people don't join to learn something. Some people have been JWs for decades and still to this day can't articulate some of the things that they WT teaches based on their Bible. The reasons why people join have to do with what they feel, what's in it for them, not for learning about some mysterious Bible passage that has a lot of exotic meaning.

  You are being too narrow in your assertions and questions. Aside from the Bible, look for reliable research that shed light about the real reasons why people join groups. That may give you a bigger/better picture.

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  Help! Jehuba Is Casting Doubts In My Mind!

  by sinboi in

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  8 years ago

  remember when we were "in"?

  we were told that if we have doubts regarding the bible and regarding the wt, it is satan that is casting doubts in our mind?.

  i have been out for 4 months now.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  when I read the newspapers, such as regarding gay marriages, raising kids genetically neutral, it just pop up in my mind that we are living in the last days.
  

  That's your real issue, not the WT nonsense.

  Then there is the case of a gay couple suing a bakery for refusing to bake a cake for their wedding. They have the right to be gay. But the bakery shop owner also have his right to refuse to do things that his religious belief forbid. The gay couple should just simply walk away and find another shop willing to make the cake for them...
  

  Who are you to change the law to accommodate for other people trying to shove their so-called morals down other people's throats? What those bakers did was ILLEGAL (look it up, they lost the case), they are not entitled to discriminate. The nonsense that you are stating can go both ways. It's like me saying "They have the right to be bakers. But the gay couple also have their right to demand others to do things that their religious belief forbid. The bakers should just simply close their bakery and find another way of making a living..."

  Go back to the congregation. Seems like you are happier there. If the JWs don't do it for you, there are plenty of homophobic, hateful, fear mongering, ignorance promoting churches that will perfectly suit you. Your fear has nothing to do with the JWs, but with your own ignorance. I'd suggest to educate yourself, but you don't seem interested in going that route, so go back to the congregation and act like an ostrich.

  Obviously you don't want to accept life and the world for what it really is. Go join some little bubble of the church where you feel entitled to discriminate against anything and everything you don't like hearing about.

  Maybe what they were engaging then is much more immoral than our times....
  

  Yeah, keep telling that to yourself.

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  Writing a book on Leaving Jehovah's Witnesses - suggestions welcome

  by truthseeker in

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  8 years ago

  so i finally decided to start writing a book on exiting jehovah's witnesses.

  i've been meaning to do this for a very long time.

  there are so many books out there and i don't want to repeat what everyone else has written.. although the book will include some basic history of jehovah's witnesses and the usual doctrinal flaws, it's core audience are those who are thinking about leaving, in the process of leaving or have already left.. the book will contain case studies of people who've left and made a success of their life.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  The situations in your list look very simple and unidimentional. Stories stating only what you list sound over-told and flat. What would make your stories stand out? Also, how would you approach the audience that has been conditioned to dismiss information like that without thinking twice?

  Also, I don't see any social content in it. Any of them divorcing, has a chronic disease, faces financial hardship, is submitted to domestic violence, faces moral/financial/emotional/access issues over an unwanted pregnancy... there aren't many details in your post, but the people you are writing for should see themselves or relate to their stories.

  My two cents.

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  All Donations Received @ KH During Annual Meeting Must Be Sent To The Branch

  by thedepressedsoul in

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  8 years ago

  i just got word that in all congregations where the annual meeting is being streamed, any donations received that day, even if put in the box for the local hall must be sent to the branch immediately.. there will be an announcement made before the program starts for this arrangement.

  so the extra electric needed that day, heat/ac that the congregation has to pay for does not matter.

  all money donated that day has to go to the branch..

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  Sad.
  

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  Jehovah (As Taught By JWs) Offers A Bum Deal

  by pale.emperor in

  1. watchtower
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  8 years ago

  i thought this during my wake up.

  if you think about it, jehovahs promise for the faithful is actually a bum deal.

  some would even say a con.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  As I have said, I can't care less about any religious belief that promotes spending this life working on earning the next. That has never made sense to me at all.
  

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  Just Got Dubbed..

  by snugglebunny in

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  8 years ago

  so there i was earlier today, enjoying a spot of lunch in a pleasant little cafe whilst out shopping, when up came a fella i vaguely recognised from the dim and distant past just as i was tucking into my highland soup with bread roll and butter..

  "i would never ignore you you know".. "eh?

  what" i ventured wondering wtf is this all about.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  I got the boot at age 26 and now at 71 I'm supposed to be grateful that some dubby has acknowledged my existence.
  

  Some JWs are more than obsessed with having the last word in everything. Even if it's 45 years after the fact.

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  Up date on what I decided to do about back surgery

  by Still Totally ADD in

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  8 years ago

  it has been 4 1/2 weeks since i had back surgery.

  i had l4and l5 fused, disk was suck out replaced with a artificial disk and a bracket or what they called a cage with 4 screws holding it all together.

  i went in on a tuesday and was out of the hospital the next day.

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  Good to hear that you are doing better. I wish you a full and fast recovery.
  

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  U.K. NHS Attitude to Blood Transfusion and its Safety

  by BluesBrother in

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  8 years ago

  while visiting someone at the local hospital i saw this leaflet " will i need a blood transfusion ?

  - patient information" .

  now i was raised in the belief that doctors are transfusion-happy and just give you one willy nilly if they operate , further that a trans.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  You are on point. There have been quite a few advances in medicine, and the need for blood transfusions in patients has been considerably reduced.

  In the medical field it's almost a non-issue. Please note that many of the advances and workarounds of administering blood transfusion come from the fact that blood banks never have the necessary amount of blood that once was required to supply for the demand. It has nothing to do with the WT influencing the medical field, which they love bragging about.
  

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  Grocery Store conversation with an elder

  by problemaddict 2 in

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  8 years ago

  i'm inactive here to the local jw's as i have faded.

  i've been slandered and all that, shunned by some but not all, but the elders basically leave me alone.

  i still run into to people all over though.

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  My "inactive" status is really just a technicality that allows me to still openly speak with others. As a result.....I have been able to help some start their own journey out.
  

  I think that's a great position to be in. That's what I did too. It's a good strategy for those who for some reason need/have to remain in touch or current on what they are up to. I remained inactive more because I don't think that they have a saying on it. Either way, I agree that it's a convenient way of staying in touch and you calling the shots.

  Once again, thanks for sharing.

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  Meetings are boring

  by Akid48 in

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  8 years ago

  meetings are boring for young kids and old but i'm going to focus on young kids 5 or 8.. i think is unfair that young kids get punished for falling asleep or zoning out.. as meetings are not as boring but i have to go to school the next day and staying up till 10pm isn't the best i can't get out of going.. but think of the young kids that dont even understand most of the teachings.. i know most on the site are adults but i heard of adults falling asleep..

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  scratchme1010 8 years ago

  Not only are they boring as hell, but they are quite inappropriate for children too. Children don't need to hear about the adult subjects that they talk about, such as fornication, some symbolic prostitute having sex with a dragon, lakes of fire, rape and genocides.

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