where they stand is a strange mixture.
yes, they don't agree with abortion and homosexuality, they believe in the bible and wear skirts and ties to church .
but in many ways they're liberal.
This conservative-liberal bullshit gets on my nerves.
I am neither. That thing causes so much unnecessary divisiveness. At the end of the day, we all have our own individual sets of vales and principles. Many of mine coincide with both conservative and liberal. I am me, not something that some people decide I'm supposed to be. I believe in what I believe because I choose to, not because liberals are this or conservatives do that.
ask any jw this one question.
are there any apostles from the 1st century still walking the earth alive today ?.
100% will say there are no apostles from the 1st century alive today.
Ask any JW this one question
...or don't. Just live your life and let them live theirs.
well went on a vacation cross country for 10 days to see relatives, and so decided to drop in on my old kingdom hall to get a look at some old friends i haven't seen in more the 27 years.. came in around 1:15 pm middle of the public talk wearing tight fitting jeans and an old sweat shirt, and sat down in front of person i served with as an elder.
the talks was so boring i can't remember a word of it, i can only recall that it was very disjointed with tremendous leaps in logic, so that my mind could not and would not follow the speaker.
watchtower study was a complete brain shrinking repeat of putting on the new personality or something, with the conductor fishing for baby food comments where none of the 3 or 4 young ones gave any comments only the hard core braindead were answering.
I can't believe I sat through almost 3 decades of listening to this utter bull shit nonsense!
Well, no more. I mean, until this time. You are waking up my curiosity. Now I'd like to go to see the changes myself.
Thank you for sharing the experience.
january 2012, at the age of 24 i “woke up” to the truth about the truth.
march 2012, i joined this esteemed message board and was welcomed.
this forum was such a help.
How lovely. It's great that you were able to fade in such nice manner. I'm very happy for you. And congratulations of your upcoming member of your family.
so im walking through town today on my lunchbreak and spot the unmistakable walk of my younger brother.
this is the one who left watchtower... well it turns out he's returned to the vomit after stupidly turning up to the 2017 convention and a few elders filling his head with seeing our dead dad in paradise and to "wait on jehovah".. a few meters behind him was my sister.
she spotted me first, then hurried up her step to my brother.
Did i do something wrong?
Yes i did. I waved and smiled. That must have done it.
No, you did not. What you did is what normal people do. They did everything wrong. Make no mistake.
i've done a good deal of posting in my brief 24 hours here so far, figured i might as well provide a slightly more in depth narrative.
second generation born-in.
elder's daughter and elders' granddaughter.
Welcome.
years ago on one of my last witnessing trips i left two magazines with an intelligent looking woman with a lovely house.
she gave my a donation and we carried on.
after 45 minutes she tracked us down at another house and returned the mags to me saying we "hate homosexuals and are preaching hatred..." she looked very upset and i was shocked by this and because someone actually bothered to read the magazines i just left!
Hate for gay people used to be the one common denominator from pretty much every religion. Times have changed for the better. Today, many of those opposing to same sex unions for religious reasons (there are others who do for other reasons) try to change the narrative and make it about something that it's not. They are the ones who always start talking about sex, sex with animals, pedophilia and all other disgusting behavior, when the issue is about the benefits, entitlements and protections that the law provides when people get married.
The worst part of it are LGBT+ JWs who get convinced of all the hateful crap and go on preaching and endorsing hate for their own selves. Sad (been there myself, though). Some make it out of that nonsense, but not all.
our kingdom hall was in a boring town of 30,000 people so to spice things up me and some special pioneers living with us decided to have a fancy dress up party!
what could go wrong?
nice clean fun, and no booze (oh crap!).
...and a Pioneer bro dressed up as a ballarena with full female make up!
Damn! The one thing I never got to do
i left 5 years ago and even though i've had therapy and have been medicated somehow, something from the last creeps up on me.
i started writing a book, mostly for my own healing.
i wrote a letter to my parents of everything i had wanted to say but knew i wouldn't get a chance to.
would it be considered inappropriate to ask forums like this for willing participants to send me their letters? I would keep everything anonymous if requested. Thanks for your input!
Thanks for sharing. I thnk your idea is great to share with people who know and understand where the writers come from. The forum admins can tell you about how appropriate it is, but I think that's a great idea.
With me, the thing is that I actually wrote my letters about 20 years ago (I uses Lotus AmiPro word processing program!). Your idea is making me want to revisit my life at that time. Makes me take a look at my way of thinking back then.
I may share them. Thanks.
fascinating - setting up some simple rules and a way to apply evolutionary pressure and the creatures learn the best way to run:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gofws_hhzs8.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31dsh2fs1iq.
Very nice, thanks for sharing.
