hope this is where it is... http://maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?bfcat=&pyt=tmap&newfl=use+address+below&addr=4440+braeburn&csz=san+diego%2c+ca+92114&country=us&get%a0map=get+map.
it's about 7ish miles from the coast.
why have a secret compound in a place that would of been one of the first places in america to be invaded by the japs during ww2?.
Gosh, that's real close to where I used to live... and it's really amusing how close it is to Qualcomm stadium, site of many a district convention where the only interesting thing to do is watch the birds swoop and dive. They should tell the conventioners to drive by and have a look, if they want to see some genuine Theokratic History (apologies to Tallyman).
-T.
need a break from the project (and just plain missing you all!).
so who's up for a little light relief in the form of a good old game of 'word association'?.
i'll kick us off with a word and you simply post your reply highlighting the first word you thought of - and so on and so on and so on ........ nic'.
...spoils useful habits.
i am just going to play devil's advocate here for a second since i need help reasoning something out again.
i think i have the answer, but i just need to do this outloud and hear some responses to make sure i am clear on this particular issue.. i remember once, when i first came across a lengthy write-up on the faulty reasoning the wts used to come up with the whole 1914 thing, i was having dinner with an older bro who, at the time, was a very close friend of mine.
i asked him directly just how valid the date was and if what i was reading on the internet had any credibility.
I think a far more radical change than dropping 1914 would be dropping it with an apology, or even an admission that they ever taught otherwise. Every single time in the past it seem that, if a change is acknowledged, it's blamed on "brothers and sisters who got carried away", and the new scriptural rationalization is the only possible way intelligent people could ever have viewed the subject. (We've always been at war with Eastasia.)
I think it will be quite instructive as to the potential future survival of the organization when they make their first real apology in connection with a flash of new light. I unfortunately do not think that will be anytime in the near future...
-T.
Southern California, currently the "Greater" LA area.
-T., who plans on ceasing to be a lifelong Californian as soon as possible
song - 112 "then they will know".
(as sung by the gb).
long have our foes been trying to expose.
Hey joelbear,
This was my absolute favorite song when I was little too. My mother got mad at me once for belting it out in the middle of a grocery store at age 4 or so.
I like Simon's version better.
-T.
the question, "why are you here?
" is simple enough, and your answer may be straightforward.
however, when i asked that of myself, i find that my answer is pretty complicated.
I am here because it took reading other people's experiences and research online to get rid of that last niggling little fear that maybe the witnesses had something after all. I want to be one more voice saying that they don't. (Which is also why I have my small little web site.)
I loved the great debates of yestermonth when there were large hot-headed debates on religion and witness doctrine and organizational history and mistakes and moral dilemmas like capital punishment, because even though tempers flew they still felt like good clean debates. I am not so happy about the current set of topics cluttering up the board, perhaps because they are more general and refer to issues which society as a whole gets passionately and irrationally inflamed over. But I guess it may simply be that, though we once were all witnesses, now we are returning to where we would have stood on the controversial issues had we never heard of the witnesses. And I would be hard pressed to say that is altogether a bad thing, preferring honest ugliness to deceitful hypocrisy. (But only just.)
I do think that there are far more good things about this board than there are bad. People need a place to come where people will understand what they've been through, and I hope that I can help them, even a little bit, with my words. A lot of people here, more than I could name in my previous "compliment a poster" post, have helped me.
Plus, it's something to do when I need a break at work .
-T.
well, another issue of the wt came today, aug 15,2001. and again it has some statements which piqued my ire, so i thought i would share a couple.. on pg.28, paragraph 14, in the study article titled 'do not give up in doing what is fine'is the following:.
"remember too, that 'jehovah is not slow respecting his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire any to be destroyed, but desires all to attain to repentance.
' (2 peter3:9) notice, god is 'patient with you'--members of the christian congregation.
Of course they're at fault, truman. The stupid sheep just won't do what they're told. I mean, the Watchtower writers have been patient with them, told them everything they need to do and not do down to the number and location of body piercings to which blood fractions they need to die over today. But do they listen? Noooo, they persist in holding up the greatest battle in history and the slaughter of billions - all because they think they don't want to spend every vacation knocking on people's doors with cheap literature. It's hardly fair to everyone who has been faithful in all of these dictates (well, as faithful as their responsibilities permit) - such as, for instance, the aforementioned hardworking Watchtower writers. Lousy ingrates.
-T.
do you know who i miss reading on this site?.
well, i miss bruce, who always made the same post about the 144,000 replacing the fallen angels.
he was a real gent who's probably found out if his theory was correct by now.
Well, he hasn't been gone that long, but I miss Focus...
http://members.aol.com/cygnus97/index/sounds/onlygo.wav.
slipnslidemaster: "do, or do not.
- yoda
Heehee, that was a good one :) Utterly, completely tasteless... which is why I was laughing for a good minute or more.
-T.
just received a telephone call from a non-jw close friend who does not post on the board.
for some time he has been writing a very detailed biography of judge rutherford that will be meticulously documented.
he's spent many weeks visiting the judge's roots in missouri and elsewhere, with very informative results.
Maximus,
Here's one I remember reading about this (sorry, don't know anything about it myself):
. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=2417&site=3
-T.
