Posts by ZAPPA-ESQUE

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RC 2016 Leaks & Releases

by wifibandit in

in an effort to reduce the number of posts, this year i will try to add links to this post.

now, on with the leaks & releases!

first up.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nzvwhflss4.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

breakfast of champions - you mis-spelt CULT in the 135th repeat - please fix your typo ! ................lol

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What would happen if...

by StarTrekAngel in

in an effort to excuse yourself from elder persecution, you present an argument.

whether at a jc or just in an average elder shepherding call.

most people who have confronted a jc, have tried to explain to the elders about what they know of the org but the incriminating questions always come up.. when confronted with the question, do you still believe the gb is the f&ds?

ZAPPA-ESQUE

Oh we had this in our recent pre-JC visit by 2 elders :

So I found the Video and the Transcript of Geoffrey J before the ARC - you know, where he is asked if he believes the JW are the True org etc . Played this to them and invited them to follow on the transcript and then told them that my current position and answer to their question is the same as GJ's ! .................until further notice and that I am applying a "waiting attitude" .................................That seemed to settle the matter ................[and they retired until a further time" ]

Also asked for a Biblical ex-splanation of Bro Splanes splanation of the Overlapping Generations - No answer offered !

No JC ...............yet !

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“Even if this wasn’t the Truth, I need the structure.”

by Londo111 in

i remember many years back a fellow ministerial servant saying this to me.

he felt that even if jehovah’s witnesses were not the only true religion, the regimented routine of meetings and field service and the strict rules and enforcement provided a beneficial structure for his life.

at the time i thought if this wasn’t “the truth”, i’d have no need for all that “structure”.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

He has not searched for or tried to truly discover what life ought to be about !

I ....."think" that after 50 years in the cult and now out I am starting to truly find the meaning of life myself ...Its a Nice journey now !

FayeDunaway = ditto ...In a post-cult chat with my children they told me in graphic detail about the father and elder I was and what life was like under me and my beloved at that time - It was horrifying to listen to that ! I wept openly.

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The new kids video is going viral, and it angered the Elf-Mom

by Captain Schmideo2 in

jw
friends

saw this in my fb feed today... .

ZAPPA-ESQUE

sparrowdown a day ago

Well, JWs are known for being the paradise "nazis."

"Vee haf a brand-new microwave oven for you .............Its seats 12 apostates "

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New ANTI-GAY video for Kids on jw.org

by ttdtt in

https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/children/become-jehovahs-friend/videos/one-man-one-woman-marriage/.

disgusting!.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

Just been phoned by "worldly" friends - Straight and Gay to tell me they have seen the video and that its going Viral - I am in South Africa - \

We probably have of the most liberal Constitutions and stances on LGBT affairs - Even one of the Constitutional Court Judges is openly Gay -

Our human rights organisations would probably classify this as discriminatory - maybe even hate speech ??

Maybe they need a call in the morning !

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Please I have a question about GNLD INT'L COMPANY

by COLLINS in

jw
friends

please i want to read about experiences of those in this forum regarding those who have worked with golden neo life international company (gnld).

i was searching for job and a man saw me and asked me whether i can do a job that would take me from two years to five years.

so i said yes to him; and he took me to a company called gnld.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

I avoided using the term Pyramid Scheme but as LisaRose says - it pretty much is !

If you take a sheet of paper and do the basic math of how the concept is supposed to work - by the time you reach only a few levels in your "downline" you will have signed up millions of people ! But ........not in reality !

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Please I have a question about GNLD INT'L COMPANY

by COLLINS in

jw
friends

please i want to read about experiences of those in this forum regarding those who have worked with golden neo life international company (gnld).

i was searching for job and a man saw me and asked me whether i can do a job that would take me from two years to five years.

so i said yes to him; and he took me to a company called gnld.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

Its a Multilevel Marketing company - My wife joined about 25 years ago but never made any real money - It runs on a model that does resemble the JW model of recruiting ! You join - usually via a presentation session after having been talked into going by a "recruiter' - and then you buy product and follow a very refined model of marketing the GNLD way ......"tried and tested" - building your Network by means of "first calls" and "return visits" and lots of use of your resources ! As in JW land you end up with a lot of "product" that you own [like Mags building up on the shelf] If you apply yourself ......"pioneering spirit" you can succeed in building your Downline but as with MLM systems there is that finite critical crossing point !

Many JW buy into MLM's because it ..... will allow you to spend more time in the preaching work wont it! And so when you have several JW in a congo doing MLM eg Amway/ Herbalife or GNLD you are all trying to recruit your nearest contact base eg relatives and congo members and it all gets very messy! There is only so much product that anyone in the congo can purchase !

And the founder was always a someone who had this "enlightening moment in life" - Like Jerry Brassfield of GNLD - rather like members of charismatic groups who have that big meeting moment with Christ -

Herewith a direct quote from the NEOLIFE Homepage - it reads like a Charismatics testimony:

As a young boy, Jerry Brassfield suffered from severe asthma and allergies. Determined to find relief for her sick son, Jerry's mother began adding quality nutritional products to his daily diet. It was then that he discovered the profound impact quality supplements could play in helping restore good health.

Because of his passion for helping others, Jerry began sharing his powerful testimony with those around him and realized most people were in need of a solution to a lack of good nutrition. Sharing the products and working with others to set and achieve both health and financial goals turned out to be a financially rewarding home based business.

His belief in the products and desire to change lives is what paved the way for Jerry to turn his small network marketing business into a global, multi-million dollar company.

So look into it very very carefully ! You may be paying out a lot of money for products [which probably have value - eg they have to pass FDA criteria ] but if you looked at the individual ingredients etc in the products you will find you can get similar elsewhere at much cheaper prices .

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What was your first public bible reading? And when?

by Mandrake in

i perfectly remember that, rehearsing with mom, trying to read with enough emphasis and in a proper tone.

i was 5 years old, back then in 1996 i think, and the portion was james 5:1-13.... i found today that i still know the first verses by heart!!!

it's actually a cherished memory for me, i came to memorize those because mom had me starting the reading all over again until i got to read it properly... and in time!!!

ZAPPA-ESQUE

Eccl 12:

1972 - While on Unassigned Territory in a little country town - We had hired the town hall for the meetings as the turnout was so well supported [Pre 1975] and to be very frank it was a wonderful long weekend away -

My School counsellor at that meeting and I became life time friends due to having a lot of secular interests in common eg Jazz Music and Electronics and high-quality audio systems. [ I still play vinyl] - It will remain etched in my book of Life and as with yourself, I can recite the entire chapter - Of course now at 60 the passage has much more relevance ! lol

It was his friendship and counselling manner [he is a brilliant teacher / lecturer] that inspired me to pursue the my school assignments very seriously and after 15 years as the TMS Overseer, my experience gained has enabled me to now earn a professional living from that experience. So it is one thing I can say I gained from my 50 years in the cult !

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A question about WTBTS moles.

by DATA-DOG in

with all the info from videos to boe letters, to the flock book ( this is huge when you learn ttatt!

), why can't we find out who the wtbts hired to aid in their rebranding efforts?

we know all about the rc and monica applewhite for jeehoober's sake, so why in the hell can't we find out who is behind the rebranding?

ZAPPA-ESQUE

My wife raised just this question with me this morning - Who is / are the WT spin-doctors - you think they are using "outside" consultants ?

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Waking up - introduction

by Dreamerdude in

i am a male, born into the jw cult(ure), baptized as a teen, now mid fifties.

most of my life i dreamed of hugging pandas and lions, punctuated at times by nightmares of armageddon or jw drama and politics.

still going through the motions for still-in wife.

ZAPPA-ESQUE

Welcome from Cape Town - South Africa !

Also a teenager of the 70's era now 60 years old - should have been sipping wine under my vine stroking my pet Lion by now right ! ............................ah well life is better now !

Stay strong !