what is the gravest sin a jw can commit?
i’m not even going to consider the so called “unforgiveable sin” since no one knows what it is anyway!
is it lying, cheating, stealing, pride, envy, being gay?
@Scully...Thats one criteria for being a cult ie fear mongering and mind control.
I do not give a goose.
@Doug Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the above. I agree totally that yes all writers wrote with the purpose of influencing their audience/community.
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what is the gravest sin a jw can commit?
i’m not even going to consider the so called “unforgiveable sin” since no one knows what it is anyway!
is it lying, cheating, stealing, pride, envy, being gay?
“I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)
Let’s face it – that’s a very sobering teaching! But let’s put it into context. Note that Jesus didn’t address his comments to his disciples or a mere crowd. He was talking specifically to Pharisees who had personally witnessed his miracle of completely and instantly healing a blind and mute demon-possessed man (Matthew 12:22). Rather than acknowledging the obvious fact that Jesus was exercising divine powers, the Pharisees were so spiritually depraved that they attributed his power to Satan (v. 24).
“Their problem was not blind ignorance, but willful rejection,That deliberate refusal to believe, even though knowing the truth, seems to be what Jesus called the unforgivable sin.”
As the Quest Study Bible puts it, “Jesus gave the solemn warning in these verses to people whose hard-heartedness placed them on the brink of disaster. Blasphemy against the Spirit evidently is not just a one-time offense; rather, it is an ongoing attitude of rebellion – a stubborn way of life that continually resists, rejects and insults the Holy Spirit. This is what makes it, in effect, an eternal sin (Mark 3:29). Blasphemy against the Spirit is not unforgivable because of something done unintentionally in the past, but because of something being done deliberately and unrelentingly in the present.”
If you believe in god then you worry about this BS.
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hi from new south wales australia.
fyi , it's tuesday 10th september 2:36am here.. i am categorically not going to blame the cult for every poor choice.
i am conscious of the fact that i was at a genetically determined disadvantage academically; i was never going to be outstanding in my achievements, no matter how hard i tried.
Sending you love and positive thoughts
Zing
hi from new south wales australia.
fyi , it's tuesday 10th september 2:36am here.. i am categorically not going to blame the cult for every poor choice.
i am conscious of the fact that i was at a genetically determined disadvantage academically; i was never going to be outstanding in my achievements, no matter how hard i tried.
hi from new south wales australia.
fyi , it's tuesday 10th september 2:36am here.. i am categorically not going to blame the cult for every poor choice.
i am conscious of the fact that i was at a genetically determined disadvantage academically; i was never going to be outstanding in my achievements, no matter how hard i tried.
First off matey, welcome to the JWNworld/forum.This is a great place to share and find new things, old things ,jw things,non jw things alike. You will certainly learn many things. I am so sorry to hear about you and your family. Yes ,I used to be one Jw ,till recently. I have made much sacrifice too thinking I am doing and making the right choices for god but unfortunately it is a cult , no doubt and ruins lives it touches.
Would like to hear more about your experiences with the Jdumbs(jw's). What made you leave the Jdumb world?
Zing
a police campaign to get the public to prepare a "grab-and-go" bag in case of emergencies has been both criticised and mocked by social media users.. a police scotland tweet urged people to pack essentials such as a first aid kit, radio, torch, and food and water.. its recommendations were part of an annual preparedness month, which is being promoted by local authorities and emergency services across the uk.. however, the police force has been accused of scaremongering.. the tweet read: "september is preparedness month.
emergencies can happen at any time and it's recommended to have a #grabbag ready containing essential items including medication, copies of important documents, food/water, torch, radio and other personal items.".
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49631455.
when someone finds himself in a bad emergency situation ,that is when one will realise that these measures are not for scaremongering but for better preparedness. It is kind of a survival kit,emergency kit in a car, first aid in the house,emergency hotline numbers for the police,hospitals etc.I even travel with some essential medicines always.Does this mean I am scaremongering or wanting something bad to happen to me? Not ! This is no different.
Why does one want to find out the hard way or may I say some people do want to find it out the hard way!
If one does not like it then do not have a grab bag,simple.
Zing
just been doing some researching and it jsut kept hititng me in the face that god jdumbs worship always butt-in/ intervenes too late or gives his 2 pence worth advice!
instead of avoiding/ preventing the innocents to suffer/ or even die he lets them get on with the bad deeds n then delayed intevention.
eg 1) judges 20 verse 18 where he could have intervevned with his power when the benjaminites were at gibeahs door and helped avoid the sex crime that took place on the poor, innocent concubine(plus 22000 innocent soldiers dying ,who returned for avenge this serious crime.. 2) 2 samuel 12:15-23 god aborts davids n bathsheba's son.
Another atrocious one Genesis 19: Sodom n Gomorrah when the people wanted to have sex with the angels,the father offers his 2 daughters instead like fodder .What father would not sacrifice his self than send his children out to the butcher's yard??
The Babble is screwed up.
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wtc has become adept at using tragedy as a means of raising cash.
for example, when puerto rico was devastated by a hurricane, wtc directed a large number of congregations to donate $1500 each in supplies that would be used for relief purposes.
it is not known how many congregations took part in this effort but the feedback suggests it was in the hundreds.
You were wise Longhairgal while I was young,naive n foolish. Spent a lot of my money n time on these jdumbs!The only comfort I am still young but wiser from experiences.
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wtc has become adept at using tragedy as a means of raising cash.
for example, when puerto rico was devastated by a hurricane, wtc directed a large number of congregations to donate $1500 each in supplies that would be used for relief purposes.
it is not known how many congregations took part in this effort but the feedback suggests it was in the hundreds.
Get This Longhairgal
Once when I was moving house to a different town,I was selling all my good furniture n things that were in really good condition as I had pretty recently upgraded my house n all (did not see this move coming ) .Practically selling everything I did not need or fit in the other house. A couple of jdumbs just turned up to take things away with a van saying "we can talk about money afterwards as the vanhire is already here." I needed the money so bad and so I just refused to let them in without handing me my cash.They did not like this at all, went and blabbered to an eldeumb who calls me to sort of tell me off for wasting this couples money on the van hire and losing out on a potential buyer! Boy was I boiling inside. I sold all my stuff to worldly people who treated me with utmost respect and were decent.
To top this a dumb elder tried to sell me his rusty,battered old car, which was nearly ready for the yard, for $1000 (not that I could afford it but he put it this way that I will need a car in the new town to get around (bear in mind I did not have a car even before then). I have never had a car in my life but do know some repairs and maintenance of a car. Some of the things that happened to me just blows me away.Why could I not see TTATT!
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just been doing some researching and it jsut kept hititng me in the face that god jdumbs worship always butt-in/ intervenes too late or gives his 2 pence worth advice!
instead of avoiding/ preventing the innocents to suffer/ or even die he lets them get on with the bad deeds n then delayed intevention.
eg 1) judges 20 verse 18 where he could have intervevned with his power when the benjaminites were at gibeahs door and helped avoid the sex crime that took place on the poor, innocent concubine(plus 22000 innocent soldiers dying ,who returned for avenge this serious crime.. 2) 2 samuel 12:15-23 god aborts davids n bathsheba's son.
The ancient Hebrews told stories to create power and relevance to their god YHWH
But dont you think they should have been making their god look like a hero/superman/savior in a very good light? They failed in doing so and the Bible is full of such awful, disturbing stories.
I do not believe in god anymore, do not feel the need to at all, see no reason to but yes I do do read stuff, ad research just for my info.
Zing
