Posts by Jidders

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Is this how you saw your Armageddon? I sure did :(

by Diogenesister in

i think most of our imaginations of the new world was probably nothing like the watchtower reality.

after all, we jws are very good at avoiding uncomfortable truths!

you can tell micheal jackson was a certain type of jehovahs witness.

Jidders

Honestly I never really thought too much on the destruction part and just had thoughts on paradise. Honestly I figured it be angels destroying the armies of the governments and Satan while everyone else watched on. I find it strange that if the faithful are to be protected during the final hour that go bags, shelters and everything are even necessary. I figured the faithful would get the same protection as the apostles in the Lions pit illustrations the WT published: buff angels guarding the meek etc.

On a positive note one of my few dreams that I had of paradise that I can remember was going to what was an abandoned/repurposed shopping mall that was being used as like a community center, people trading goods, playing music, seeing my family members meeting up all that fluffy stuff, and I met this nice Indian girl and her pet tiger (stereotypical subconscious eh?) She was cool.

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Life as a Perfect Human in the New System of Things

by RubaDub in

i have always wondered how basic things that we do to ourselves will be handled as "perfect" human beings.. i recall someone here had a quote from an old wt that said that if we fall off a roof or something that there will be some "force" to soften the fall and we will not be injured.. but, as a perfect human, if we travel to mexico and drink water from the tap, will we get the squirts, flying shits, montezuma's revenge, or whatever you wish to call it?

maybe we will be protected as perfect human beings and have colons that also are perfect.

but who knows.. just pondering these common things that we take for granted.. rub a dub.

Jidders

Honestly I would still love to live forever with youth and good health so long as I got to keep some other people around me who consent to the notion as well, though as I get older my view on that would change, but I feel like I dont have enough time for all the things I want to learn and do now and I'm only 28. I'm a fairly slow and lazy person as it is so time flies when I dont want it to.

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Life as a Perfect Human in the New System of Things

by RubaDub in

i have always wondered how basic things that we do to ourselves will be handled as "perfect" human beings.. i recall someone here had a quote from an old wt that said that if we fall off a roof or something that there will be some "force" to soften the fall and we will not be injured.. but, as a perfect human, if we travel to mexico and drink water from the tap, will we get the squirts, flying shits, montezuma's revenge, or whatever you wish to call it?

maybe we will be protected as perfect human beings and have colons that also are perfect.

but who knows.. just pondering these common things that we take for granted.. rub a dub.

Jidders

I always figured that "perfect" human status would remove illness, disease, cancer and aging. As for pain of injury and such I figured we could still end up hurting ourselves though accident but healing and pain would be quick and short, as I feel that no pain would essentially mean we lose half of our senses and our ability to contrast pleasure and pain, leading to dulled senses overall. Afterall Jesus was able to be killed as a perfect human and the wording about the fruit is "you positively will die", possibly meaning even Adam and Eve could possibly die but possibly not as a permanent status.

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"Do not make for yourself an image of God ..."

by stuckinarut2 in

a thought struck me regarding the biblical directive found in a few places including exodus 20:4.

"do not make a likeness of god in the form of any creature that is on the earth or heavens ".

it would seem disrespectful to use "dirty" creatures to describe perfect beings?.

Jidders

I think it's less contradictory and more of one was a law to not make new Gods/represent God through a craft image or a mortal creature whereas the appearance of angels and heavenly beings is comprehension of what goes beyond mortal existence. Afterall YHWH didn't even want stones to be carved to make his altars, just use natrual stone, to prevent the possibility of it and to keep the natrual purity of the stone, I imagine it goes. Then again the copper altar also had horns like the bull and angels typically took on animal appearances like the Lions head in the wheels, but again this could be interpretive writing.

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Religious experience

by rolliepollie in

have you had a religious experience, such as being saved, that made you beleive in a higher power?

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please share your experience..

Jidders

Personally I've had moments of horrible depression and doom where I'd be in my room crying and bemoaning my situation to a near paralyzed state. One instance had lasted around a week, of which I had prayed and expressed my feelings and issues. I suddenly had an overwhelming sense of calm and started telling myself what I needed to hear and within about 30 minutes I felt like I had a 180 on every thing bringing me down. Maybe it was just my chemicals came back in balance but it doesn't disqualify the possibility of some external help.

Also our living condition borders on evicted and living comfortably so closely it feels like someone is giving us the slightest help sometimes, though I do know my family works hard to keep things going, myself included

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May 2019 Watchtower doubles down on the "Two Witness Rule" !

by stuckinarut2 in

this is simply disturbing and infuriating!.

the may 2019 wt has defiantly and arrogantly been released by the gb, and it is full of their disgusting excuses for not complying with authorities!.

(i have seen and read all the articles, but cant work out how to upload a link here - perhaps someone can assist?).

Jidders

I skimmed through the article and it looks like while their priority is still skewed on some aspects they seem to be covering more bases and clearing up that the abused/elders should definitely report the crime if it comes to knowledge and that if the community finds out it's not the vicitm bringing reproach, it's the abuser.

Which this is all well and good but super super behind on getting this all cohesive rather than scattered about and left for easy abuse by unscrupulous elders.

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Historical snapshot of how Watch Tower manipulated $$

by TerryWalstrom in

charles t. russell, age of 13, joined the congregational church (dumped presbyterian).. he went (like girl scouts are sent out with cookies to sell) door to door to raise money for the congregational church.. attitude as a youthrussell hated fundraising.

he had to ask poor people to part with their money.

he said he felt he was "fleecing the flock.".

Jidders

If the WT wasn't so focused on hating the world the amount of coordination, money and chutzpah could help so many so easily...

Man that bugs me. I don't do a lot myself but even I can gift a stranger some money for gas or some money for a food bank here and there

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Just peeking in for a bit...

by Jidders in

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friends

i rather apprehensively would like to say hello.. i've been raised somewhat in the truth,one of my parents is rather rather strong in the beliefs but could honestly be considered pomi with how active they are and their side of the family comes from a line of witnesses, the other parent was but faded a long time ago.

as such i was taught quite a bit of jw teachings between family and off and on again bible studies.

recently i had a serious emotional break down over a few months after said pomi parent had advised me that they would not attend my wedding should that day come (i also had recieved a text from my bible teacher i hadnt heard from in a year or two giving a scripture) and it sorta all sank on me that my activity over the last few years was not really jw material.

Jidders

Thanks Tenacious, I am off and on medicated for anxiety/depression and I've been hesitant to seek therapy but I've been learning to open up to family and friends which has been helping me. It's something that runs in my family but things are getting better even if I feel like my chest is full of wool at times.

Honestly the back and forth of the doctrine made me think "if the watchtower built on a stone foundation either they built the tower too high and it's breaking at the base or they have gone back and forth they've bore down into the sand".

I honestly feel if Jehovah/Yahweh was with them then he's making naked the sins of those holding the reigns but failing to direct the horse, so to speak

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Watchtower Study Edition - April 2019....Thank you for not doing enough in the field ministry

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

watchtower study edition- april 2019. are you fully accomplishing your ministry?.

the study article starts off with praise and admiration for members who are out in the field ministry.

the wtbts understand that you have family responsibilities, work, get sick, and have pains due to aging.

Jidders

Yes, they can continue to artificially massage the numbers so that they don't look as bad, but at the end of the day, there is only so much you can do. At some point, even the creative ways of counting time will not be enough to keep the numbers afloat.

I noticed numbers seemed a bit odd recently, CO was saying there were 9m active pubs this last Sunday, my mom mentioned 10m when I was giving my confession of wanting to stop my study but the 2018 report had 8.5m, which either means a lot of inactives popped back up or something's off

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Daily Text - 1/30/19

by Jidders in

the love of the greater number will grow cold.—matt.

24:12. i read the daily text today, thoughts on a scripture that does seem to be somewhat fulfilled with the increase in atheism and alternative religions?

it had definitely been going on back then but is it a general assumption?.

Jidders

Those are very fair points of reasoning Half Banana, thank you!