Hello Francois.
Please explain how the above experience was frightening to you. I would have considered that a disappointment, not anything frightening. I mean, perhaps you were afraid of dropping your britches on the spot?
in my hometown, this other witness and i were.
going from door to door one day when we reached one particular house.. the householder became so agitated by the presence of jws.
that he "sicked" his dog on us, but thank god it had a muzzle.
Hello Francois.
Please explain how the above experience was frightening to you. I would have considered that a disappointment, not anything frightening. I mean, perhaps you were afraid of dropping your britches on the spot?
before you jump the gun and start offering a friendly hand maybe you should take the advice given and do some reading & research here first.
you are going to be very surprised with what you find from these so-called loving x-witnesses.. let me give you a couple of examples.. go look up the topic: bryant memorial report.
read how sadden everyone was to learn of this man who couldnt deal with lifes problems and decided to become judge and jury for his whole family and took them out with a shot gun blast to head as they slept in their beds.
perhaps gettingout doesn't realise that Lotus was totally discredited in the other thread?
I don't think gettingout realizes that either. Then again, maybe he/she/it does and doesn't care because of he/she/it's axe to grind again ex witnesses.
i had this 'friend',she also goes to the weekly meetings of jw's.. actually we were good friends, but she had no respect for me sometimes.i just ignored that at the beginning,but she kept disrespect me,what began to irritate me.. i asked myself is she worth a further friendship and the answer was..no.. the past month i had a little fight with her and realized that i should quit the friendship, and i did.. my message for those who don't know: even within the congregation you have to look good who is worth a good friendship and who isn't.. better have 1 good upbuilding friend than 10 fake friends.that is a life-lesson to me.
blessed_girl:
You're right,but it's hard to find good friends in my environment who are not JW's.Of course it is hard to find good friends in your environment of those who are not JWs. It's because you already consider it a bad environment because they are not JWs. Why don't you try evaluating the people you meet before passing judgement on them, and you may find closer friends who love you for WHO you are rather than WHAT you believe.
It's a concept that some call "True friendship".
i visited some relatives in my extended family and found exactly.
the same situation as elsewhere in witness congregations.. the next generation of witnesses isn't there.. a friend of mine, who still goes to some meetings, made the.
same observation independently.
A peer into the cult mindset:
There is no scripture that supports destroying families, that’s why Witnesses do not destroy families.Note taken. Witnesses do not destroy families. Families stay intact.
Families are destroyed when a member decides go against Jesus’ teachings and the Bible.Whoops! We just heard that witnesses do not destroy families, now we are told why the families are destroyed by the witnesses. (And destroyed they are since the witnesses believe they are following the teachings of Jesus&Bible and they are the ones who decided to sever the relationship, hence destroying the family unit.)
They are also destroyed by members that are stubborn in their own imperfect human ideas and try to destroy their faith.Whoops! Now it is because of the other party's imperfect human ideas. So, since the witnesses are the ones who severed the relationship to family, we see again that the witnesses do indeed destroy families.
If the family is united in faith and knowledge then there is no division.Another Whoopsie! Since you must believe as a witness believes in order to refrain from 'dividing' the family, we once again see that the witnesses truly do destroy families, since 9 out of 10 disbelievers still love the family from which they are 'cut off'.
So we can see that the cult mindset is truly interesting. You can litterally believe two opposing points of view at the same time, and register NO contradiction. (Witnesses do not destroy families, but if the family is united in faith and knowledge there is no division).
i just wanted to let you all know.... .
i've been posting for an entire year!
and i'm almost an emperor!!!
Well, uh... Yay.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
I know it doesn't bother you Ernesto. If it did, I don't think you could truly live with yourself. (A Liar who trusts in God? Nah...) As I said before, good luck with your "reinstatement" as it were. Hopefully "the brothers" will accept your participation on this forum as a fine display of repentance on your part. They will look at every dodge, every duck and run, as a fine example of the conduct of a true christian.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
MavMan: It really urks you that a "mere lurker" can see through to what you really are doesn't it?
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
MavMan said:
I certainly did not duck out on purpose. I do have a life beyond this forum, you know. ...Yep. Deceitful as can be. I notice that you almost always seem to suddenly obtain your life away from this forum whenever a hard to answer question comes up. It sounds like a cop-out to me. You then try to minimize the social heat on you by pulling this stunt:
If you point to a specific thread or question that you would like to get my opinion on, I would be glad to answer.What a joke. No doubt you will suddenly become busy and unable to respond if the threads were even pointed out to you.
i turned in a request (by letter) for reinstatement last week and ive been informed that i will meeting with my original judicial committee this coming wednesday.
im very excited and happy, but at the same time i want to be careful how i conduct myself.
in the last meeting in early march, my reinstatement request was turned down.
MavMan said:
I don’t want to start on the wrong foot by hiding the fact that I have been in this forum researching the truth.
You have done no such. You have simply come onto this forum, made very poor attempts to discredit "apostates", duck and ran whenever your canned answers couldn't resolve the issues. All I have seen from you is denial, deceit, and (albeit deliberate) ignorance.
I wish you LUCK on your reinstatement. (That is, if you aren't sitting at bethel eating a donut over your computer keyboard.)
yesterday i posted this: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=25490&site=3.
last night, the po called me, because i had left a message for him.
he was also very nice, and said he would tell the elders what i said, and he would come visit mom on saturday.
MavMan, in his most "infinite wisdom" stated:
This is a very common accusation from silly apostates.I'd rather be a silly apostate than a stupid witness.
The Watchtower and Awake are very informative.Indeed. They tell you anything and everything that you need to know to continue your service. Effective marketing ploy.
Most of the donations come from the Witnesses themselves.No argument there. Only difference there between witnesses and actual businesses is that the businesses actually pay there workers for their time and effort, instead of investing 95% of their earnings (my wife told me this) in a permanent 401k plan that they never can quite cash in.
asked my wife about this and she told me that 95% of the time the witnesses never mentions the donation arrangement.So, now that you've made a big stink in the past about other witnesses considered in good standing not being able to speak for all of the witnesses in general, suddenly your wife qualifies as a universal spokeswoman for 6 million+ people?
The truth is that it takes money to print and produce the huge amount of publications that Witnesses use and distribute.Yep.
The point is that no one is forced to donate by passing a little plate from person to person.Hmmm... Don't recall anyone EVER being forced to donate by passing a little plate from person to person anyway. Are you saying that when you pass by the little box on your way out of the meeting that you are forced to donate? No? Didn't think so. Perhaps you are speaking of coersion to donate by humiliation if you don't donate. This is plausible, although completely applicable to you as well. I mean, just as a fine upstanding baptist would want to further the work of his/her loving church by tithing the tithe, would you not be a fine upstanding true christian by donating to help further the kingdom work? You do want to follow your commandment to preach, do you not? How can this be done without more "food at the proper time(tm)" to propogate to the masses, since your ministry is based on the placement of magazines from door to door?
If the person's heart compells him to donate he can discreetly go to one of the donation boxes at the rear of any Kingdom Hall and donate.Gee... "if the person't heart compells him..." What an interesting concept. Do you actually think that you are better because you read in a magazine that you should donate (you mentioned compelled hearts, not me) rather than hearing a pastor plead for a donation from the podium?
Am I better because I tell you that you should leave rather than begging you to go away?