When he was a kid, Abel Perez told the elders about his parents abusing him. (The first linked document describes a lot of the abuse.) The elders didn't do anything. When he got older and was finally able to report it as an adult, the Watchtower Lawyers said something to the effect that "we're not liable because the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses wasn't incorporated yet" or some lame excuse to that effect. Rather than admit their mistake and try to shepherd the hurt lamb, they added insult to injury and got "off the hook" because of legal loopholes. The WTBT$ just showed again what we already know - that they are frauds and con artists and they don't have love for people, they have love for money and prominence. Jehovah is the God of Love. The WTBT$ are not Jehovah's witnesses. The WTBT$ hurt the sheep and then try to put the blame on God. When the WTBT$ are destroyed as a religious institution, many will rejoice.
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CA Judge Orders VICTIM to Pay Award to Abusers
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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I really like you, @stanlivedeath, and it's okay with me if you ask me Bible questions. I like talking about the Bible. I like talking about a lot of things that aren't the Bible too. I wasn't trying to be rude, so I hope it didn't come across that way.🙂💖
I was just trying to respect your decision. If you do really want to know about what the Bible says about the 3 1/2 year thing, there are a bunch of posts on it here...
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4797299037831168/sounding-trumpet?page=3
"The problem--for you--will arise when none of what you write takes place--what will you do then ?"
Well, it's not my word, it's God's, and His Word always happens, so it seems to me the "problem" will be more yours than mine - although, if you ask me, what you view as a "problem" is actually a blessing for you and for me. When He allows the governments to destroy the WTBT$ and other fraudulent religious institutions, and when that awful disfellowshipping doctrine is gone, and then when corrupt governments are gone, it's going to be really nice for all of us.
The question is, what will you do then? Maybe we can all have a beer together and some snacks with a bunch of our friends that we haven't seen for awhile. And have music. Sound like a plan?😃
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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@stanlivedeath
Why do you keep asking me Bible questions? I thought you didn't want me to share scriptures with you. I told you I would respect your decision. The 3 1/2 years is literal. The mandatory "shunning" by the JWBorg will be eliminated during that time. You can start planning your undisfellowshipping parties and who you will invite over now if you want to. The wall separating us from our borg family and friends is coming down soon.
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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@DesirousofChange, I am not a WTBT$ supporter. WTBT$ has been misrepresenting Jehovah with their false pyramidology based "just around the corner since 1914" mythology. Those teachings were never in the Bible. If you chose to fall for their false teachings, that's not Jehovah's fault and it doesn't negate the fact that He is truthful.
The timeline of the great tribulation being 3 1/2 years is in the Bible multiple times. If you don't want to believe it, whatever, that's your choice.
The God-dishonoring shunning doctrine is another misrepresentation and twisting of the scriptures. Jehovah will hold those WTBT$ guys accountable for misleading so many people. And He will also make clear Who He Is to others like you.
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CA Judge Orders VICTIM to Pay Award to Abusers
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
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We can only do so much to make a change. We do what we can, but He will do the rest. If we die while we're waiting, what of it? At least the grave is a peaceful place. He can bring back the dead. And He will.
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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The UN will get the power they crave. They will remove the religious institutions, and in the process they will remove a lot of our freedoms. They'll go too far. It'll be like hell. But then the UN will be removed and replaced. It's going to be a process. That's why it's called "great tribulation". Once it starts, it'll be over in 3 1/2 years. Then we'll really be free.
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Looking for quotes
by no-zombie ini've tried but failed to find these quotes.
if anyone knows where they are, that would be great.. #1 reading the wt and awake magazines for a few years, is like getting a uni degree.. #2 don't bother learning old greek or hebrew because its a waste of time, besides we've got it covered.. thanks.
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(Haha, this one's ironic because of all the CSA stuff...)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101996732?q=better+university+awake&p=par
"You Would Do Better Consulting Awake!”
...“At the end of a lesson, the teacher asked her students for help in finding material on child abuse, the subject on which she was preparing a postgraduate thesis. I remembered a few issues of Awake! that dealt with this and related subjects, such as ‘Sex Education—Who Should Give It?’ (February 22, 1992)."
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The Pharisaical Persuasion
by Vanderhoven7 inthe pharisaical persuasion by stephane maillet.
the jews searched the scriptures daily because they thought salvation was within themselves.
they knew the law yet interpreted the text to their desires, burdening the people with heavy traditions and ordinances.
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I don't know the author, and I cannot vouch for his knowledgeability on Jewish history, but it appears the author was using the phrase "pharisaical persuasion" to describe religious hypocrites.
If the author's point was to warn believers against religious hypocrites, that was accomplished in the excerpt provided.
""But watch out for the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.” Then they grasped that he said to watch out, not for the leaven of bread, but for the teaching of the Pharisees and Sadducees."
Jesus wasn't just preaching to literal Jews about literal Jews. His words were for us today too, and the "Pharisees" are figurative. (How many of us today know any literal Pharisees?) God is Our Father. We don't need some clergy class to stand in between us.
"For by him we have life and move and exist, even as some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his children.'"
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CA Judge Orders VICTIM to Pay Award to Abusers
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
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(I didn't watch all of the video, but I read the links to the court case in the comments.)
A few Abel Perez case document links...
I do not believe in a literal place of hellfire, but if there was such a place, surely Watchtower Lawyers would be there.
Leviticus 14:43-45
"If, though, the contamination returns and breaks out in the house after the stones were torn out and the house was scraped and replastered, the priest will then go in and inspect it. If the contamination has spread in the house, it is malignant leprosy in the house. The house is unclean. He will then have the house pulled down—its stones, its timbers, and all the plaster and mortar of the house—and carried outside the city to an unclean place."
In Bible times, sometimes if a house was so incredibly unclean, you couldn't fix it. The whole house had to be taken down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnsYG2PFgSw
2 Peter 3:7
"But by the same word the heavens and the earth that now exist are reserved for fire and are being kept until the day of judgment and of destruction of the ungodly people."
The WTBT$ is one of many religious "houses" that are incredibly unclean. The figurative "fire" of Jesus' illustrations and of Revelation will soon "burn down" the disgusting religious institutions that wrongly claim to represent God's will - including the WTBT$ and their reproachful "legal" department.
Matthew 24:50,51
"...the master of that slave will come on a day that he does not expect and in an hour that he does not know, and he will punish him with the greatest severity and will assign him his place with the hypocrites. There is where his weeping and the gnashing of his teeth will be."
Matthew 13:49,50
"That is how it will be in the conclusion of the system of things. The angels will go out and separate the wicked from among the righteous and will cast them into the fiery furnace. There is where their weeping and the gnashing of their teeth will be."
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh inmandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
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"forced - obtained or imposed by coercion or physical power
coerce - persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats; obtain (something) by using force or threats" (definitions from oxford languages)
The FD$/GB/WTBT$ falsely claim to represent the God of the Bible, but then they disregard His clear commands on showing love and respect for life. The FD$/GB/WTBT$ do threaten the people they have influence over. They do carry out the threats when they cut the people off from their social groups and also sometimes their physical resources.
"18 U.S. Code § 912 - Officer or employee of the United States
Whoever falsely assumes or pretends to be an officer or employee acting under the authority of the United States or any department, agency or officer thereof, and acts as such, or in such pretended character demands or obtains any money, paper, document, or thing of value, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 742; Pub. L. 103–322, title XXXIII, § 330016(1)(H), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2147.)"
In the United States, it is illegal to falsely assume to be an officer acting under the authority of the United States.
How much more so it is illegal for the FD$/WTBT$ to falsely claim to be representing the God of Love when they enforce their ostracism doctrine that has a basis in Greek philosophy rather than the law of the Christ!
When the governments of the nations dismantle the WTBT$, Jehovah will not stand in their way. He will give them the strength and desire to do it, because it is in harmony with His will.
"It is God’s minister, an avenger to express wrath against the one practicing what is bad."
May you have God's speed and blessing in your work, Lee.💖