https://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
@nicolaou, Why is that sick and twisted? For some abuse victims, the bad memories don't stop. Haven't you ever just wished you could sleep through all this mess? I know I have. Even Job and Moses and Elijah said one time that they'd be grateful to be dead. (That's not the way to go if you can help it, but it is a valid emotion.)
It's all right. "We will get by."
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Yes, but it will still be functioning when it's tossed in the figurative "fire". It's coming quickly, that hour.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Right now, they can join a cult if they want. But soon that option won't be available anymore. The time for experimenting with cults will have passed. Cults hurt people. God's not going to allow people to hurt people anymore at a certain point. He's allowed them to try cults and it doesn't work. (He already knew it wouldn't work from the beginning, but He allowed them to try anyway, because they wanted to, but He put a time limit on it.) The precedent's been set. Soon no more cults. Ever. Cult-free life, woo-woo. Happy day. Hallelujah. He'll undo the damage from them and anyone in the future whoever says "hey, let's do the cult thing!" will be reminded - "ah, no, let's not."
We already see the evil from the cult-lifestyle, but many of the JWs do not see it yet. They will see it shortly, whether they want to or not - Jehovah is exposing all of it, from the foundation to the roof. It's going to be completely torn down and exposed. When the WTBT$ hierarchy is dismantled, the rank-and-file will see the false doctrines for what they are, and they won't cling to them anymore. They'll be embarrassed they ever believed in them.
It will happen fast.
https://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
When he was a kid, Abel Perez told the elders about his parents abusing him. (The first linked document describes a lot of the abuse.) The elders didn't do anything. When he got older and was finally able to report it as an adult, the Watchtower Lawyers said something to the effect that "we're not liable because the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses wasn't incorporated yet" or some lame excuse to that effect. Rather than admit their mistake and try to shepherd the hurt lamb, they added insult to injury and got "off the hook" because of legal loopholes. The WTBT$ just showed again what we already know - that they are frauds and con artists and they don't have love for people, they have love for money and prominence. Jehovah is the God of Love. The WTBT$ are not Jehovah's witnesses. The WTBT$ hurt the sheep and then try to put the blame on God. When the WTBT$ are destroyed as a religious institution, many will rejoice.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
I really like you, @stanlivedeath, and it's okay with me if you ask me Bible questions. I like talking about the Bible. I like talking about a lot of things that aren't the Bible too. I wasn't trying to be rude, so I hope it didn't come across that way.🙂💖
I was just trying to respect your decision. If you do really want to know about what the Bible says about the 3 1/2 year thing, there are a bunch of posts on it here...
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4797299037831168/sounding-trumpet?page=3
"The problem--for you--will arise when none of what you write takes place--what will you do then ?"
Well, it's not my word, it's God's, and His Word always happens, so it seems to me the "problem" will be more yours than mine - although, if you ask me, what you view as a "problem" is actually a blessing for you and for me. When He allows the governments to destroy the WTBT$ and other fraudulent religious institutions, and when that awful disfellowshipping doctrine is gone, and then when corrupt governments are gone, it's going to be really nice for all of us.
The question is, what will you do then? Maybe we can all have a beer together and some snacks with a bunch of our friends that we haven't seen for awhile. And have music. Sound like a plan?😃
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
@stanlivedeath
Why do you keep asking me Bible questions? I thought you didn't want me to share scriptures with you. I told you I would respect your decision. The 3 1/2 years is literal. The mandatory "shunning" by the JWBorg will be eliminated during that time. You can start planning your undisfellowshipping parties and who you will invite over now if you want to. The wall separating us from our borg family and friends is coming down soon.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
@DesirousofChange, I am not a WTBT$ supporter. WTBT$ has been misrepresenting Jehovah with their false pyramidology based "just around the corner since 1914" mythology. Those teachings were never in the Bible. If you chose to fall for their false teachings, that's not Jehovah's fault and it doesn't negate the fact that He is truthful.
The timeline of the great tribulation being 3 1/2 years is in the Bible multiple times. If you don't want to believe it, whatever, that's your choice.
The God-dishonoring shunning doctrine is another misrepresentation and twisting of the scriptures. Jehovah will hold those WTBT$ guys accountable for misleading so many people. And He will also make clear Who He Is to others like you.
https://youtu.be/ay9do_jojtm?si=76u8asuictmymi9m.
We can only do so much to make a change. We do what we can, but He will do the rest. If we die while we're waiting, what of it? At least the grave is a peaceful place. He can bring back the dead. And He will.
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.
shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.
mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
The UN will get the power they crave. They will remove the religious institutions, and in the process they will remove a lot of our freedoms. They'll go too far. It'll be like hell. But then the UN will be removed and replaced. It's going to be a process. That's why it's called "great tribulation". Once it starts, it'll be over in 3 1/2 years. Then we'll really be free.
i've tried but failed to find these quotes.
if anyone knows where they are, that would be great.. #1 reading the wt and awake magazines for a few years, is like getting a uni degree.. #2 don't bother learning old greek or hebrew because its a waste of time, besides we've got it covered.. thanks.
(Haha, this one's ironic because of all the CSA stuff...)
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101996732?q=better+university+awake&p=par
"You Would Do Better Consulting Awake!”
...“At the end of a lesson, the teacher asked her students for help in finding material on child abuse, the subject on which she was preparing a postgraduate thesis. I remembered a few issues of Awake! that dealt with this and related subjects, such as ‘Sex Education—Who Should Give It?’ (February 22, 1992)."
