Posts by EasyPrompt

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

EasyPrompt

aqwsed12345 said: "Use less line spacing, clown comments, and redundant, absolutely unnecessary funny pictures and videos."

😝

You're the one making the spacey clown comments.🤡

EasyPrompt said: "Begotten" means created.”
aqwsed12345 said: "Ah…. and should I just believe this on your mere statement? I don't even understand why the theologians argued so much about this, if it would have been enough to throw in 3 (!) words. What kind of intellectual pretentiousness is this?"

I don't know what kind of intellectual pretentiousness you have - you're the one who knows.

aqwsed12345 said: "Just answer the rhetorical question at Hebrews 1:5:"

If your question is rhetorical, why do you want me to answer it?

Father means procreator. The children of the Father are His creation.

When there was nobody else in existence besides God, God fathered Jesus. After that, Jesus helped God make everything else. The only person that God made while solo was Jesus.

That's why no other creation of God can be called "only-begotten".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLuz5jpCVjQ

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the sounding of the trumpet

by enoughisenough in

i will risk showing my ignorance but i had some questioning thoughts in my head lately...maybe those more scholarly than me have insight.

jw teach that the anointed who now die go immediately to heaven.

when lazarus had died martha said she knew he would rise on the last day.

EasyPrompt

https://youtu.be/hpzEJPz0xsI

(video is less than one minute, displays scriptures in chart form explaining 3 1/2 years of great tribulation, the last chart shows scripturally that the resurrection of the anointed will not occur until after the 1260th day of the great tribulation)

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"outside of time" argument

by Blotty in

this is going to be very brief but a user recently tried to argue an argument that has already been refuted many times - the logic is somewhat sound but falls apart when the definition to the word used it looked and its usages in the bible.the word in question is "aionas" found in the scripture in question hebrews 1:2 .

(https://biblehub.com/hebrews/1-2.htm#lexicon)for starters look at the biblehub translations - do any of them state "outside of time" or that time was "created" in this moment - no because this seems to be heavily inspired by greek philosophy rather than the bible itself.note: i am not saying this word does not mean eternity or anything of the sort, i am saying this scripture some of the claims i dispute and can easily disprove, hence the argument is laughable.. bill mounce defines the word as:pr.

a period of time of significant character; life; an era; an age: hence, a state of things marking an age or era; the present order of nature; the natural condition of man, the world; ὁ αἰών, illimitable duration, eternity; as also, οἱ αἰῶνες, ὁ αἰῶν τῶν αἰώνων, οἱ αἰῶνες τῶν αἰώνων; by an aramaism οἱ αἰῶνες, the material universe, heb.

EasyPrompt

Blotty said: "This is going to be very brief..."

😆 I guess length of time is a matter of perspective. ☺️

aqwsed12345 said: "It's particularly amusing that one of the most important Watchtower doctrines which they are 'ad nauseam' parroting, namely "the Son is a creature", is NOWHERE explicitly stated in the Bible, although they amusingly claim that all their teachings are "clearly" in the Bible!"

"Father" according to Strong's is: "one who imparts life and is committed to it; a progenitor, bringing into being to pass on the potential for likeness...is used of our heavenly Father. He imparts life...refers to a begetter, originator, progenitor..."

Father = "begetter"

Matthew 6:9

"You must pray, then, this way: “‘Our Father in the heavens, let your name be sanctified.""

2 Corinthians 1:3

"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ..."

1 Peter 1:3

"Praised be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ..."

Ephesians 1:15-17

"...that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give you a spirit of wisdom and of revelation in the accurate knowledge of him."

Romans 15:5,6

"Now may the God who supplies endurance and comfort grant you to have among yourselves the same mental attitude that Christ Jesus had, so that unitedly you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Colossians 1:3

"We always thank God, the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, when we pray for you..."

God is the Father of Jesus. It's right in the Bible a bunch of times. The scriptures clearly describe Jesus as begotten of God. "Begotten" means created. Anything created has a start date and is subject to time.

God is not subject to anything or anyone. God is not subject to time, that is why he can tell the finale from the beginning.

2 Peter 1:19-21

"For prophecy was at no time brought by man’s will, but men spoke from God as they were moved by holy spirit."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IZ6bPACd50

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Awake! No.1 2023, A United Nations Advertisement?

by EasyPrompt in

awake!

magazine no.1 2023 and united nations promotions.

page 3, "world meteorological association".

EasyPrompt

https://rm.coe.int/native/09000016809f7e01

https://www.coe.int/en/web/der/united-nations

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Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

by Sea Breeze in

i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

EasyPrompt

aqwsed12345...that picture on that link is horrid and demonic. Christ Jesus would never ever ever ever do anything like that because Jesus does everything like his Father would, and his Father is the God of Love.

Why is there a prologue letter from Pope Pius IX who died in 1878 if the publication was produced in 1905? What was the Bishop trying to prove? He mentioned scriptures out of context and misapplied them, and then used Greek philosophies of Plato and Socrates to try to back up his dark fairy-tale story.

Here's a clue when searching for truth - never trust any human claiming to come in Jesus' name who wants you to call them "Honorable" or "Reverend" or "Father". Jesus clearly said not to take on titles like that. If the person writing their sixty-one page thesis on hell can't even understand Jesus' clear direction on that matter, then they certainly aren't qualified to teach anything else about God or Christ or the Bible.

Matthew 23:1-10

"Then Jesus spoke to the crowds and to his disciples, saying: “The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the seat of Moses

...All the works they do, they do to be seen by men, for they broaden the scripture-containing cases that they wear as safeguards and lengthen the fringes of their garments. They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues and the greetings in the marketplaces and to be called Rabbi by men.

...But you, do not you be called Rabbi, for one is your Teacher, and all of you are brothers. Moreover, do not call anyone your father on earth, for one is your Father, the heavenly One. Neither be called leaders, for your Leader is one, the Christ."

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Awake! No.1 2023, A United Nations Advertisement?

by EasyPrompt in

awake!

magazine no.1 2023 and united nations promotions.

page 3, "world meteorological association".

EasyPrompt

🎶WHO really are U, WTBT$? I really want to know...WHo who WHo WHO?

🤣🤣🤣 😁

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNbBDrceCy8

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Awake! No.1 2023, A United Nations Advertisement?

by EasyPrompt in

awake!

magazine no.1 2023 and united nations promotions.

page 3, "world meteorological association".

EasyPrompt

https://starconnectmedia.com/depression-the-silent-killer/

https://www.who.int/campaigns/world-mental-health-day

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Is WT Teachig on Hell Biblical?

by Sea Breeze in

i guess you could say jesus was the first christian, since he was the christ.

and as the first christian, jesus spoke more about hell that any other biblical figure.

but, he is also the figure that said that he didn't come to condemn the world, but to save it.

EasyPrompt

Yeah, because "hell" or "heller" in the Bible is "the grave" and refers to the condition of being dead. "There is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going." (Ecclesiastes 9:10)

So people in "hell" or "Hades" or "the grave" are just asleep, and they can't warn anybody about anything.

The illustrations in Revelation and the gospels about the recycle bin and the trash dump are figurative.

If I dispose of something in the recycle bin, I can perhaps get it back.

If I dispose of something in the incinerator at the trash dump, not so much.

When Jesus disposes of the hypocritical religious institutions, those who are clergy/leaders in those institutions will weep and gnash their teeth because the means of their prominence/financial gain will be gone. It'll be "like hell" for them, in the "extremely difficult experience" sense of the word.

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Ecclesiastes 9:5 -"the dead know nothing at all"

by aqwsed12345 in

the narrator of the book of ecclesiastes had very little knowledge of many things that jesus and his apostles later preached.

the author does not make statements, but only wonders (thinks, observes, often raises questions, and leaves them open).

he looked at the world based on the law of moses and found nothing but vanity, as the earthly reward promised in the law did not always accompany good deeds and earthly punishment for evil deeds.

EasyPrompt

Right, that's why when Jesus said "Lazarus our friend has gone to sleep, but I am going there to awaken him..." and then "Jesus said plainly, "Lazarus has died," his words jive with what is written in Ecclesiastes 9:5.

Lazarus didn't say, "Aw, Jesus, why did you bring me back from heaven!" or "Yikes! Thanks, Jesus for bringing me back from that awful hell place!"

The only time in the scriptures anybody talks like that is when apostate King Saul went to visit the witch of Endor..."Then “Samuel” said to Saul: “Why have you disturbed me by having me brought up?”"

The "doctrine" of "life in hell" is not based on the Bible, either in the Old Testament or the New Testament.

Life can be hell. But neither Jesus nor God would ever keep someone alive for all eternity in a torture chamber. "God is Love."

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Jesus' language was extravagant? Really?

by BoogerMan in

w80 10/1 p. 25 after these “last days” god’s messianic kingdom!

- "when speaking of those final days of the jewish system of things, jesus said: “then there will be great tribulation such as has not occurred since the world’s beginning until now, no, nor will occur again.” reportedly, there were 97,000 jews inside jerusalem that survived the siege and desolation of their holy city and its temple built by king herod.

however, these were not the “chosen ones” on whose account that “great tribulation” was shortened.

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The Flood of Noah's day touched every corner of the earth.

The visions of Revelation included prophecies that talk about every nation, language, etc, also about how the "great city" has sway over all kings of the earth.

Revelation was written after the tribulation in Jerusalem.

The future tribulation will be just as extensive as the Flood of Noah's day.

"Perhaps the JW's view of the G.T. isn't as bad as they make it out to be/want it to be."

It isn't the "JW's view" that matters. It's what the Christ tells us that counts.

The disciples fell asleep before.

"He returned to the disciples and found them sleeping, and he said to Peter: “Could you not so much as keep on the watch for one hour with me? Keep on the watch and pray continually, so that you may not enter into temptation. The spirit, of course, is eager, but the flesh is weak.""

Now is not the time to be sleeping.

"But know one thing: If the householder had known in what watch the thief was coming, he would have kept awake and not allowed his house to be broken into. On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it."