i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.
"he was my friend" .
"there will never be another of his ilk".
Natas, in the case of Jim Penton, you have to come with extreme valid proof. You accuse him for doing a serious academic crime.
The man is a well respected scholar and did one of the most valued research and wrote a standard work.
So come with argumented proof or stop the dirt and speaking shit.
Gorby
i don’t know a lot about james penton but i think he deserves a better thread than the one currently on offer.
james penton, who died recently, grew up in a jw family in canada and served as an elder.
unusually for a jw, he studied liberal arts at university and became a history professor.
Jim Penton gave me the inspiration to do deep research. And that a JW could be an academic.
G.
i am non political and have never voted but nonetheless i have been keenly watching to see how the trump presidential race unfolds.
i believe that his involvement in propelling or influencing a leaning toward bible prophecy will unfold.
how, i can’t say but something tells me that this anomaly and outlier being trump is highly signifiant!
Dream on.
G.
i saw a post on reddit by "big_routine1112" announcing that james penton died.. well, there's always the resurrec... oh, nevermind.. as always, the person expressing the most profound grief and dismay wins!.
"he was my friend" .
"there will never be another of his ilk".
Natas, what is your point?
The man was a scholar and an example for many JW's to do research.
Gorby
jerry bergman, ph.d. .
the first american study.
the watchtower influence was often not positive, and there was no evidence that it had in the long run helped those who had emotional problems when they joined.
This is also my main concern with the withness bubble. A lot of the jw population were people with problems, got "helped" into the organization.
Much of these have mental problems, and their children got it also. We see witness children with mental problems choosing a jw partner with mental problems. And so one and one.
The genes pool is a problem.
Gorby
my only prowess in making predictions stems from my 77-years of life in the united statesgrowing up under president truman, eisenhower, kennedy, nixon, .....etc.
etc.i was a widdle kid sitting in front of a tiny black and white tv set when the very first broadcastsof political conventions, deal-making, debates (nixon vs kennedy), assassinations (jfk, rfk, martin luther king, etc.
) i grew up with duck and cover under my elementary schooldesk, the cold war, the iron curtain, the korean war, the vietnam war and i went to federal prisonas a jw conscientious objector while hippies, flower children, political activists protested and universitystudents were fired up on by troops.i grew up reading newspapers (2 of them).
Trump knows to connect with voters. What a show man. I like his performance.
Gorby
witnesses do not give to charities.
mm writes:.
"they are specifically told to only donate to the watchtower organization to let the organization handle disaster relief.
There was a France initiative, 2 JW doctors started Aidafrique, witnesses donated an mass. Jw.org took it all over and Aidafrique became a Watchtower NGO, used for diplomatic relation between Watchtower, UN. UNHCR and a lot of politic and diplomatic traffic with Country's and politician.
It all was terminated at the end of the 90's.
Gorby
mind you, it took the org over 30 years to think it was an idea worth copying.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/family_home_evening.
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
😁.
Tell me, how can a x Mormon enter the GB??
Gorby
the watch tower society of pennsylvania filed a lawsuit on september 3, 2024, naming as defendants the russian federation, the russian ministry of health, and the almazov national medical research center.
unfortunately, i can't access the case documents, including the complaint.
i would appreciate if someone with an active pacer account could make them available.. anyway, it is enough to know the almazov center is one of the entities sued by the wts to say what this case is about.
mind you, it took the org over 30 years to think it was an idea worth copying.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/family_home_evening.
imitation is the sincerest form of flattery!
😁.
We discussed this here right after te start of it.
We, on the board here, got the news of the deleted meeting first. I remember I told an elder that one meeting in the week would be skipped.
It was before the midweek meeting and he accussed me being wrong. I told him: now waiting for deleting the rest. I said it with a smile. He becane mad.
Gorby
