Oh, during the visit they complained that all apostates do is just drag people down but they never build you up.
Hasn't the WT been doing that to the Catholic Church (plus others) these last 120 years?
Double standard???
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Out with a bang....plus Elders (Gestapo) visit....
by TheApostleAK injust da'd myself the other day...announcement tonight.. -------------------------------.
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Out with a bang....plus Elders (Gestapo) visit....
by TheApostleAK injust da'd myself the other day...announcement tonight.. -------------------------------.
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Just DA'd myself the other day...announcement tonight.
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Dear Brothers,
In light of the recent "Don't think, don't advocate, don't harbour private ideas" comment in a recent Watchtower article (Aug 1st 2001), this is a quick letter expressing my desire to resign my position as a publisher of the Good News and hence disassociate myself as a member of Jehovah's Witnesses.
These past six months have been troubling to me, not because of my family situation (its fine) but because of my spiritual situation. Since mid last year I decided to really prayerfully study indepth (Acts 17:11, 1 Thess 5:21, 1 Jn 4:1) a dozen or so cherished, long held beliefs that either didn't quite add up or make sense.
Usually, if the society taught something that didn't add up or make sense, I would pray to Jehovah for guidance and understanding (Jas 1:5, Dan 2:20-23) and if nothing was forthcoming on the matter I'd just accept it as one of "the deep things of God" (1 Cor 2:10) and take the society's word on the matter on faith and just put the matter to the back of my mind and move on to the next thing, although the nagging would still remain.
It was with great enthusiasm that six months ago I decided to really put those nagging doubts to rest. That enthusiasm soon turned to disbelief as I found out that several cherished, long held beliefs as taught by the society have no solid basis in the Bible. I have come to the decision that I cannot consciencely teach certain teachings that I firmly believe to be false, misleading, unchristian and ultimately unscriptural.
I won't go into too much detail here (you probably won't read it anyway - if your even reached here). The teachings I am repudiating mainly have to do with the Organisation, attitudes to the Bible, Christ's mediatorship and the New Covenant, Interpretation of the “Little Flock” and “Other Sheep”, Jeremiahs 70 year prophesy, Dan 1:1 & 2:1, Rev 7:15, The name “Jehovah” in the Greek Scriptures, Shunning and a few other things.
Unless I am convicted by Scripture and plain reason I am bound by the Scriptures and my conscience is held captive by the word of God. I cannot nor will not recant anything for to go against conscience is neither right nor safe.
All this deep study over the past 6 months has had a profound effect on my life as the Scriptures have really opened up. God's word now reads to me as a letter from my heavenly Father and portions of Scripture, that I thought (and had been taught) didn't apply to me, now have meaning. My relationship with my dear Father has changed significantly. I thought I had a good relationship and yet I know now that it was but a shadow of the real thing (Rom 8:14-17)
I would like to make it perfectly clear that just because I am disassociating myself, that I am certainly not (nor ever will) reject God, Jesus Christ as the Son of God, God's word - the Bible or the Christian way of life. Neither have I accepted any of the main orthodox Christian doctrines as I would like to add that 95% of the things that the society has taught I have firm belief in and accept.
Also, I would like to still continue to receive new Watchtowers and Awakes (or any past issues I need for my collection) as well as any new publications which I will gladly contribute for. I would also like to have a copy of my congregational records as well as a copy of my baptism video.
Finally, I’d like to express my abhorrence at the society’s former involvement with the U.N. as a non-government organisation. I find it incredible that the Watchtower can join the U.N. yet any “rank & file” publisher who joins would be disfellowshipped for breaking his/her Christian neutrality. I thought the library card excuse was hilarious!
In light of recent events, the black-white; all-or-nothing policy of the society and counsel such as Apr 1 1986 Pg 31, I sadly and regrettably wish to announce my decision to disassociate myself from the congregation and cease to be a member of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Now doubt you will apply Rom 16:17,18, 1 Cor 5:11 or even 1 Jn 2:19 to me (erroneously, since I am none of the sort - especially the last one). To apply any of these Scriptures to me just reveals how screwed up the society’s teachings are. I truly love the individual members I have met over the last few years but the organisation is, to my mind, corrupt to the core and doctrinally flawed. I may well be shunned by long-time friends, due to the society's man-made rules and erroneous scriptural interpretations, but in truth, Christ is a much greater gain (Eph 1:3-7).
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Alan XXXXXXXXXX
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Apologies to (I think) Little Toe for providing me with some ideas.
On Sunday the 2 Elders came over for a sheparding visit. It started off ok till I quizzed them on Jer 25:12.....And it went downhill from there.....
They started the usual "you've been reading Apostate literature", "deceived by Satan" etc (Oddly enuff they didn't see my Ray Franz books on my bookshelf that were in full view.)
A number of things came out of the Gestapo visit. They told me that I cause sects and divisions by my NON-ATTENDANCE (err, new light?) (I haven't been going to meetings for a while), plus a number of little half lies like Jesus read HEBREW scriptures at the synagogue (it doesn't say so in the Bible) that I only noticed after they left. Also, when I quizzed them on Jer 25:12 they hammered me on the last part of that scripture but they avoided explaining the first part (Seventy years) at all costs. (They also said that the seventy years prophesy has a modern day fulfillment with Babylon the Great..new light? 1919+70=1989???). (When I remember a few other things i'll post them here)
Towards the end they refered to me as an Anti-Christ (but not straight out) and (get this) said that if any of my family become JW's that they would make (force) my family shun me. They also asked me to apologise for that letter.
The DA announcement is going to be read at tonights meeting and i'll keep you all informed on any new events.
P.S. I got the Elders visit on audio tape :)
From Alan (The Apostle AK).
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JWs reading Franz's books.............
by TheApostleAK inthis has got me wondering....... in australia there is a national christian bookstore that stocks coc, isocf.
right now the wait for those 2 books is currently 12-14 weeks (there's a pre-order list so first in gets first books of the next order).
this bookstore orders books by the pallet regularly.. i'm starting to think that jw's are ordering these books cos the wait is sssoooo long.. any comments?.
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This has got me wondering......
In Australia there is a national Christian bookstore that stocks COC, ISOCF. Right now the wait for those 2 books is currently 12-14 weeks (there's a pre-order list so first in gets first books of the next order). This bookstore orders books by the pallet regularly.
I'm starting to think that JW's are ordering these books cos the wait is sssoooo long.
Any comments?
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NEWSFLASH!!!! Hot new WT videos....
by TheApostleAK in(sorry don't know the exact names of the videos) there's 2 new videos being released by the society right now.
one's the siberian exile 50th anniversity and the second one is a blood video with the title "blood - medicine finally catches up" (something like that).. ps the new world society video has been released (about 7 years ago).. from ak
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(Sorry don't know the exact names of the videos) There's 2 new videos being released by the society right now. One's the Siberian Exile 50th Anniversity and the second one is a BLOOD video with the title "Blood - Medicine finally catches up" (Something like that).
PS The New World Society video has been released (about 7 years ago).
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Baptism...
by TheApostleAK inthere are kids out there so afraid of getting df'ed that they never get baptised.
check the latest watchtower.... from ak
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I can't as i'm sitting in a public library on an internet computer....
The latest Watchtower really bitches about young ones who don't make the step to baptism.
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Baptism...
by TheApostleAK inthere are kids out there so afraid of getting df'ed that they never get baptised.
check the latest watchtower.... from ak
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There are kids out there so afraid of getting DF'ed that they never get baptised
Check the latest Watchtower...
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Wacko Jacko = Michael the Archangel??????????
by TheApostleAK infrom the encyclopedia of heresies and heretics by leonard george.. under the section on jw's.... some members have seriously considered the possibility that popular singer michael jackson (who was once a jw himself) is the archangel michael in (very effective) disguise, preparing to inaugurate the end of history.
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From The Encyclopedia of Heresies and Heretics by Leonard George.
Under the section on JW's...
Some members have seriously considered the possibility that popular singer Michael Jackson (who was once a JW himself) is the Archangel Michael in (very effective) disguise, preparing to inaugurate the end of history
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by TheApostleAK insociologically speaking as a religion, the jw's are at a threshold of continued cultishness and obscurity, or re-oriontation to a more 'mainline' christian religion with its own unique distinctiveness.
i say the wt will take the middle ground....
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Sociologically speaking as a religion, the JW's are at a threshold of continued cultishness and obscurity, or re-oriontation to a more 'mainline' Christian religion with its own unique distinctiveness
I say the WT will take the middle ground....
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There's as many inactive JW's as actives....
by TheApostleAK injoelbear said:.
the news report posted in the news section indicates about 1% of americans identify as jehovah's witnesses, that is about 3 million just in the us.
so even though they are inactive, 2 million people still adhere to the beliefs enough to identify it as their religious affiliation.. in australia we just had a consensus and the number of people in this country that say they're jw's is 95,000 (can't remember the number exactly).....the only trouble is that there is only about 58,000 active jw's according to the wt..... anyone know their countries story??.
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JoelBear said:
The news report posted in the news section indicates about 1% of Americans identify as Jehovah's Witnesses, that is about 3 million just in the US. So even though they are inactive, 2 million people still adhere to the beliefs enough to identify it as their religious affiliation.
In Australia we just had a consensus and the number of people in this country that say they're JW's is 95,000 (Can't remember the number exactly).....the only trouble is that there is only about 58,000 active JW's according to the WT....Anyone know their countries story??
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Time for a JC for the Apostle AK.....
by TheApostleAK injust been called for a jc next saturday because of a few things i've said.
last nite 2 elders came over an try to "correct" me on the naos rev 7:15 thing.
you should of heard the arguments they were giving.. one elder gave me the "i'd rather be wrong and be in the org than right and alone" thing and one gave me the story (i'm currently working fulltime) about the brother who could of had a job or gone to the ms school (he went to the ms school) and if he took the job, he would of been dead cos it was in the world trade centre.
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