Thanks for those three messages, and I mean it.
You're into the core of various matters.
TheOldHippie
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Resignation - not that it matters at all, but ....
by TheOldHippie ini just wanted those kind-hearted, those gentle, those friendly ones of you to know that i wrote my letter of resignation as an elder yesterday, after having served in that capasity for 24 years.. those wishing to call me or any society "bastard", "sucker", "braindead" or anything, as they have before, i would ask please to refrain from that.
other comments would be welcome.. somehow, it is the armstrong quote about "one small step for man, one giant leap for humankind" (approximately) the other way around, "one giant leap for (a) man, one hardly noticeable step for humankind".. ok, that was that.
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Who will be the next 'king of the north'?
by YoYoMama ininteresting news article: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2002/01/10/dfw/news-011002-02.htm
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TheOldHippie
I always thought the King of the North was Kent and Norm.
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Resignation - not that it matters at all, but ....
by TheOldHippie ini just wanted those kind-hearted, those gentle, those friendly ones of you to know that i wrote my letter of resignation as an elder yesterday, after having served in that capasity for 24 years.. those wishing to call me or any society "bastard", "sucker", "braindead" or anything, as they have before, i would ask please to refrain from that.
other comments would be welcome.. somehow, it is the armstrong quote about "one small step for man, one giant leap for humankind" (approximately) the other way around, "one giant leap for (a) man, one hardly noticeable step for humankind".. ok, that was that.
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TheOldHippie
I just wanted those kind-hearted, those gentle, those friendly ones of you to know that I wrote my letter of resignation as an elder yesterday, after having served in that capasity for 24 years.
Those wishing to call me or any society "bastard", "sucker", "braindead" or anything, as they have before, I would ask please to refrain from that. Other comments would be welcome.
Somehow, it is the Armstrong quote about "one small step for man, one giant leap for humankind" (approximately) the other way around, "one giant leap for (a) man, one hardly noticeable step for humankind".
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Another Jw myth exposed
by uncle_onion in... http://faculty.washington.edu/chudler/tenper.html.
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TheOldHippie
Still, I don't quite find that this covers the point 100 % (or should one say 10 % in this connection?). I doubt if anybody anytime has believed that 90 % of the brain just lies waste, waiting for something to happen; it would die off during the waiting time. The question as I have always understood it, is whether we use the brain to the edge of its capasity. When I drive my car at 10 mph, I use the whole car, but I could drive at 100 mph, it's just that somehow I don't manage to let my foot be heavy enough ...... (I am stunned at my own illustration here - but I guess some sly guy will soon nullify it ......). So does the article really answer the challenge?
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JW's and "free" literature...
by Andyman ini have a discussion going on another board about the so called "free" literature from the society.
i have tried to explain that is not free but the jw's insist i am lying.. all the jw's keep saying it's "free" no charge.
i would love any comments on this topic so i can link it to the jw's over there.
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TheOldHippie
That just isn't so, Belbab; there are no calculations made between the Society and the congregations in this respect; never have we been asked for money, and never have we been told we have not sent enough, that we have to pre-pay or anything. Skeptic is right, apart from the fact that CD-Roms can also be ordered readily.
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Armageddon Question 4 You Know & YoYoMaMa
by teenyuck insince you are both rabid jw's:.
armageddon: what is your belief of how your life will be immediatly following armageddon?
what is your belief of how your life will be within 1-5 years of armageddon?
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TheOldHippie
Count me in! Whereto shall I send the funds for the construction of the rocket ship?
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to YOYO re: watchtower as a prophet
by dubla ini started this new thread as you requested.
we were discussing the various dates of armageddon, predicted by the wt.......ill start with your quote:.
the brothers were not predicting, but trying to understand bible chronology and prophesy.
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TheOldHippie
There clearly were different opinions as to 1975, I just read the 2000 Yearbook, and in the article about the Czech Republic, you will find regarding 1975 that there was a whole lot of speculation among the Witnesses, but that the Branch office sent out a letter as a circular, telling them to stop speculating and that there was no basis for claiming that the end of the world would occur at any specific year, so in effect they said "no" to the articles stating that it "would be appropriate for God" to follow the 7,000-years rules made by the Adventists for Him to have to adhere to.
In general, YoYoMama writes according to what the situation ideally should have been, and perhaps is at some places, whereas the majority writes according to how the situation regretfully is at most places. there is a vast difference between words and reality, and that is a problem. -
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Armageddon Question 4 You Know & YoYoMaMa
by teenyuck insince you are both rabid jw's:.
armageddon: what is your belief of how your life will be immediatly following armageddon?
what is your belief of how your life will be within 1-5 years of armageddon?
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TheOldHippie
Interesting question; being one of the "stubborn" ones, I feel it is a question for me, too. I do not think it will mean living on as if nothing had happened. If close to the whole world around you falls to pieces, it should have a small effect on oneself, too ......
I would tend to imagine like living a hundred years ago in a rural area, with no electricity, a house in need of repairing etc. Or if one is in some sort of a camp for some time, and then helping each other with building a "first-generation" house. I have often wondered at all the cows and horses and sheep and goats (I am not trying to be funny) and hens which are more or less trapped in farms and in need of being fed, milked etc. In my area, it would be a hundred cows to each person as of today, and I sure would not be able to milk a hundred cows a couple of times a day ......
Slowly, conditions would improve. But I do not think we would ever see cities or living conditions like today anymore. Speaking like an environmentalist or "green" man, we ought to have stopped the development quite a few decades ago, when it was all more recyclable, and not as ruining as it is today.
But then, we may all be way, far out. Things may suddenly change in a way we had never expected, and we can look back at say that hey! why did I not think of that? Of course it had to be this way and not that stupid way that I imagined. -
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Question about the "7000-year" Creati...
by Bendrr inin all the time i was in the witnesses, i too was taught that the "creative days" of genesis were 7000 years long.
what is the scriptural evidence supporting that?.
in the bible, it also says that to god a 1000 years is a day.
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TheOldHippie
It must be some 20 years ago at least that you could read in articles that the creation days were millions of years long, so the 7,000-years ideas was disbanded decaded ago.
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Feeling Sorry for the Current GB
by Duncan inwhy, today, have i managed to make myself feel sorry for the current gb?.
ill explain.... in another current thread on jwd, wherein unoh has yet again valiantly marched out upon the plain to confront the armies of apostasia, alanf makes an interesting observation:.
jw leaders are the ones who exploit others...having become old and spiritually ossified, they cannot change.
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TheOldHippie
Would this come from inside the GB itself? As of today, it is pretty much divided in two, speaking of the age of the members. You have 5-6 being in their 80s or 90s, and then 5-6 being in their 50s.
A major break as you describe it, would though, completely destroy the idea of an organization being led by God, and therefore none of the two groups, conservatives or liberals, could carry on and claim being the one and only true group. The result would be as with the Armstrong-led "Worldwide Church of God", where they all went back to scratch to see what the Bible had to say, and apart from a few loyal ones have all disappeared into mainstream sects.