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  "Reassignment" or Exile?

  by Quendi in

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  hello friends,.

  i know this has been brought up elsewhere, but i wanted to relate an experience a witness friend shared with me only last night.

  i'd appreciate any additional details others may have on this topic.. many of us are aware that the wts is "downsizing" its staff at branch offices around the world, including brooklyn bethel.

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  TheOldHippie

  "in the Republic of Georgia or some other third world country"

  The Republic of Georgia is not a third world country, it in all aspects is a part of Europe.
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  I have a question on the Circuit Accounts Scam thread

  by gubberningbody in

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  i didn't want it to get buried and i'd really like to know.. so i knew pretty much what he was saying was true, but what i don't get is how the creative accounting works.. i mean you have to show expenses on the ledger - and i mean real expenses, like the co/do expenses along with receipts.. you have actual costs for the power coming into the building.

  the paper supplies and cleaning supplies.

  the vacuum cleaners and mops and other sundry items, and you have to have receipts for all that.. i also know that when you made a "donation" it was off the books at the circuit level as far as accounts were concerned.. but how is money not being accounted for?.

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  TheOldHippie

  "a gb member refusing to stay with congregants but rather at a very fancy hotel during a visit to an island country."

  Well, if that is all you can come up with ........... It was old Henschel who on a zone servant visit to Malta experienced that a well-to-do brother paid for him and his wife a stay at a good hotel while they were there, in stead of staying with local brothers as they had earlier done.

  If that is all you have - it just ain't much.
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  A new twist on the overlapping generations

  by PYRAMIDSCHEME in

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b5yrycmj9u&feature=share.

  (this video was posted on the facebook page: towerwatch.).

  in 2010 we had the new light on the overlapping generations...now there seems to be a new twist.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Therefore one can conclude that any new partakers are fakes or mentally unstable. The problem of the increasing partakers has been solved"

  Not so. Ther are not regarded as fakes or unstable - although they very well might be - but they are still regarded as substitutes for those of the remnant who have proven unfaithful. But the solving of the problem lies in the fact that these new ones DO NOT COUNT as to the question of whether or not we are close to the end of this world. The proof of the closeness lies in the new overlap teaching, that the present remnant have to have been overlapping with the 1.0 version. Those who have not overlapped, are still considered valid remnant members, but can not be used to tell that this appointing of new substitutes can go on forever and ever, thus stretching the end time period. The end time period follows the 2.0 version, and if the substitutes can be called the 3.0 version, then they do not count as to the chronology.
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  Bros before ... on the watchtower CD

  by bohm in

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  2. friends

  below are the average occurances of specific words plottet as a function of year for the watchtower.

  the occurences has been normalized such that for instance an occurance of 0.1 correspond to the given word being used an average of 0.1 times per page in the watchtower for that year.

  (a page is assumed to contain 3000 characters).. any good ideas?

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  TheOldHippie

  Our Kingdom Ministry being changed to Our Kingdom Service

  That was "obviously" an "English thing", since other languages saw no such change, but for the change from "KM" to "Our M for the K".
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  Inactive (i.e. not reporting) witnesses won't survive armageddon

  by Mickey mouse in

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  did anyone else catch this in the talk at the convention 'are you behaving as kingdom citizen?'.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Christian (jw) men not being allowed to wear beards"

  Not so in Europe. Here it is allowed.
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  European Court to favor the WT and condemns the French goverment

  by Nick! in

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  2. friends

  this news was announced today on the journal "le monde": http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2011/06/30/temoins-de-jehovah-la-cour-europeenne-des-droits-de-l-homme-condamne-la-france_1543102_3224.html#xtor=rss-3208.

  unfortunately, the european court of human rights has just condemned the french government against jehovahs witnesses.

  if you recall, the french state was claiming 23 million euro (abt 33 million us dollars) taxes on contributions received by the french watchtower during the years 1993-96, which, by now, had climbed to about 58 million euro (abt 83 million us dollars) counting interests and charges.. it is not easy to size the wt.

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  TheOldHippie

  One will notice that nowhere in the official news release does the WT claim 17 million members. The jw-media.org only mentions the number of followers in France itself. There is no reason to make a huge thing out of something not existing.
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  You-Tube Deprogramming JW's -Interview w/ 2 Elders About Child Abuse

  by flipper in

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  2. child-abuse

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anmrufrgtky&feature=related.

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  TheOldHippie

  Wasanelder - I agree. Two elders trying their best politely to answer never-ending "what if" - questions.
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  Rutherford and the new DVD

  by truthlover in

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  can anyone tell me why rutherford is not shown giving a talk or speaking in public?

  i noticed that russell was on film in the first dvd -out of darkness but rutherford was shown in a picture only - never speaking or doing a public presentation, same goes for the second one -they have an actor portraying him... was there a reason?

  was his persona that bad?

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  TheOldHippie

  I've listened to tens of speeches by him, and he never screams or yells or anything, he is low-tuned, calm, a bit Southern and cool.
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  Extraordinary events and amazing coincidences: why do JWs always attribute them to God?

  by MrMonroe in

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  2. beliefs

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  TheOldHippie

  The French writer Émile Deschamps claims in his memoirs that, in 1805, he was treated to some plum pudding by a stranger named Monsieur de Fontgibu. Ten years later, the writer encountered plum pudding on the menu of a Paris restaurant and wanted to order some, but the waiter told him that the last dish had already been served to another customer, who turned out to be de Fontgibu. Many years later, in 1832, Deschamps was at a dinner and once again ordered plum pudding. He recalled the earlier incident and told his friends that only de Fontgibu was missing to make the setting complete—and in the same instant, the now senile de Fontgibu entered the room.

  In his book Synchronicity (1952), Jung tells the following story as an example of a synchronistic event: "A young woman I was treating had, at a critical moment, a dream in which she was given a golden scarab. While she was telling me this dream, I sat with my back to the closed window. Suddenly I heard a noise behind me, like a gentle tapping. I turned round and saw a flying insect knocking against the window-pane from the outside. I opened the window and caught the creature in the air as it flew in. It was the nearest analogy to a golden scarab one finds in our latitudes, a scarabaeid beetle, the common rose-chafer (Cetonia aurata), which, contrary to its usual habits had evidently felt the urge to get into a dark room at this particular moment. I must admit that nothing like it ever happened to me before or since."

  Jung wrote, after describing some examples, "When coincidences pile up in this way, one cannot help being impressed by them—for the greater the number of terms in such a series, or the more unusual its character, the more improbable it becomes."
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  Interesting discussion about Bethel

  by DagothUr in

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  it's from the jwtalk.net (the jdub forum).

  the name of the topic is "bethel volunteers?":.

  dub1: it was announced at our meeting last night volunteers for bethel in nyc.

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  TheOldHippie

  Nothing new. This arrangement has been going on for years in Europe.