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  David Splane does not bow head when giving a prayer!

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this is a report in spanish conerning david splane giving a prayer at a convention.. perhaps someone can translate it better, but google translate gave the following:.

  during prayer, should no longer be necessary to bow his head in a mass meeting, as was splane throughout the prayer, head up, down, left and right looking at all tiers, not hiding in the least.. so splane is looking all around at the sudience while giving a prayer?!!!.

  can someone confirm that is what the spanish text says?.

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  TheOldHippie

  Really, there ARE greater problems than this out there in the great wide world than this, are there not?
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  FREDDY FRANZ and the effect of dropping out of Higher Education

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  let's pause a moment and consider the actual history of the watchtower society.. until his death, pastor c.t.russell was the driving force behind the publication of the watchtower.

  russell controlled it and made provisions in his will for what would happen to the watchtower in the event of his death.

  russell's writings, theology, teachings, predictions and intentions were attractive to those who joined his bible students movement.. fred franz signed on as a baptised adherent of russellism in 1913 because he was strongly attracted and persuaded by russell's message.. franz knew russell for three years until the pastor's death in 1916.. franz was ambitious to become a presbyterian minister.

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  TheOldHippie

  Someone on this forum had contacted Oxford University and was assurred there was never an application from Franz.

  i don't think so. I think the only reply was that he had not received it, but that there was no list of appliers.
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  The Orwells are so naughty! Filthy little apostates we are.

  by Julia Orwell in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my husband has started playing violent samurai video games again!

  he's grown a beard!

  he watched lord of the rings!.

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  TheOldHippie

  "She was thrilled that I've left JWs"

  Wow. Countries are different. A doctor saying something like that over here, would end up on the front pages of the newspapers the next day and have his/her career cut VERY short.
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  UK Courts protect abused children from 'they led me on' defense

  by besty in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/10228621/lawyer-who-called-13-year-old-predatory-is-barred-from-sex-offence-cases.html.

  from memory (help pls) when jehovahs witness elders report child abuse judicial comittee outcomes to the watchtower they have remit to comment on whether the child victim played some part in the offence.. this despicable question seeks to make the victim a mitigating factor in the sin crime.

  well as of today the uk judicial system has laid down a marker that this 'defence' is inappropriate and will not fly.. what the defence said:.

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  TheOldHippie

  The only reason question 9 OUGHT to be there, is that it should be followed up by a CO or DO or Branch visit by a heavyweight telling those elders that they a) should resign immediately if sticking to the idea, or b) within a rather limited time limit do some heavy reading and studying followed by obtained understanding that the idea is 100 % false.

  Many a JW will no doubt have the idea that the victim to a certain extent brought it upon herself/himself, which is totally false, but that only reflect what people in general believ, regretfully. People having been in a jury can tell horrendous tales of what other members have said between themselves. Such ideas die hard. The WT is slow in coming, but I sincerely hope it is coming. Individual elders and COs/DOs are wonderful and do a great job in these matters, but the organizational structures are stiff and harder to handle - as is the case in many an organization. The present pope looks a bit more laidback, but he has a monstrous organization to fight with. Cardinal Ratzinger more or less gave up the fight, as I have understood it.
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  New Child Abuse lawsuit to be filed tomorrow in Ohio against WT and congregation

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  media alert: press conference wednesday, july 31, 2013, 11:00 am .

  civil lawsuit filed against ohio jehovahs witnesses congregation and national organizations by sexual abuse victim .

  childhood victim suffered sexual abuse from congregational leader over a four year period .

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  TheOldHippie

  "I sort of wonder how much longer things can carry on for like this. "

  Well, the Catholic Church has kept it going on for a millennium and a half ..............
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  Strange e-mail from Romania

  by jakes in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i received this strange e-mail from romania.

  to worship god in spirit , it means to have the understanding of his word , in spirit .

  what is the truth ?

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  TheOldHippie

  Slightly strange is it, though, that people find this Romanian group (and similar groups in other so-called East European countries) humble and deep and earnestly Christian, while the same people mock Da Judge and his followers - because this Romanian group is VERY MUCH a Rutherfordian/early Knorrian group.
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  interesting Rumour

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i heard a rumour today to the effect that there is a new gb member in his late twenties/early thirties.

  i stress that this is unsubtantiated and requires confirmation or quashing.. can anyone confirm or definately deny it?.

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  TheOldHippie

  "very recently they inducted two very young men (in their late 20's) into the Branch Committee of India Bethel. This may be a foreshadow of greater things to come!"

  Yeah, sure - the Indian Branch has always been a forerunner. Oh man, here we are maximazing rumours, taking the science of rumourism to new hights.
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  WT destroying old literature

  by startingover in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was approached by an elder about a year ago asking what i am going to do with my large collection of wt literature.

  he told me the society had put word out that they were collecting old literature.

  i asked him why but he couldn't give me a definite answer.

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  TheOldHippie

  He is selling AND buying. Some of the stuff he is selling, he once bought from me and I in my turn a few years earlier had bought some of it from others. Some of us are collectors, find stuff in attics or flee markets, sell and buy. He is just one among many. No need to make him look suspicious.
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  CHANGE IN RESURRECTION DOCTRINE?

  by Mary in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, this is from the january 1, 2007 craptower.

  page 25 is the study article called "the first resurrection---now under way".

  it's too boring to type all the stupidity written, but here's a brief synopsis of where they come up with the brainiac idea that the first resurrection occurred in 1918 onwards:.

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  TheOldHippie

  Especially the last 5 years and 11 months.
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  Remarkably stupid point in this week's Jeremiah book study - Jehovah's loving kindness

  by sir82 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the whole jeremiah book is an abomination, but a point in this week's study exceeded even its usual standards of inanity.. from page 144, paragraph 10:.

  in our day, god continues to show loving-kindness in ways that directly benefit his worshippers.

  consider the matter of prayer.

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  TheOldHippie

  Chronic problem should not be understood as health or other problems, it is applied to problems one might have as to tendency towards immorality, drunkenness etc.