TheOldHippie

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  How did HQ handle the increase of new JWs leading up to 1975?

  by Zoos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this new donation arrangement under the pretense that so many new halls are needed to accommodate the worldwide increase has me wondering.

  the numbers in the current annual reports don't show anywhere near the increase as there was leading up to the 1975 debacle.

  so how did the gb of the time handle a genuine need for more kingdom halls?.

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  TheOldHippie

  There were not many KHs in the pre-75 era, at least not in Europe. Our congregation owned its own old house, and was one of the first to have one. So it was a question of renting larger school rooms or space like that. Post-75 just saw slightly less people coming but no selling necessary. My first congregation donated thousands of dollars monthly to the branch because of low cost of renting a room in an old building.

  Two neighnouring congregation are a bit anxious right now, as each of them sold their KH last year in order to build new ones and now are having their meetings in the KHs off other congregations. Each of them have a bank account of some 1 million dollars because of the sales.

  My congregation? Would have been debt free in 40 years (no kidding), but it is now zeroed out. Two opposite takes.
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  A farce elder here

  by His Excellency in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just to share a little about me:.

  i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

  makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  thank you, talesin - and poor me, who believes EVERYONE is talking truth here ..............
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  Proposed Apostate takeover campaign

  by zound in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  fictional apostate takeover campaign.

  stage #1.. what if in a town that had a particularly large amount of apostates and ex-jw's, over a period of a few months, they started going to a small congregation.

  either pretending they were bible studies or just returning jw's, they got good standing in the congregation, priveleges etc.

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  TheOldHippie

  Great idea! - And imagine, it wouldn't take more than 40-50 years to accomplish!
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  A farce elder here

  by His Excellency in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  just to share a little about me:.

  i was recently appointed an elder, about 6 months ago now, and that is exactly two years after my awakenning, but funny that the appointment came also about 2 years after i had completely lost all faith in god and had been leading a full time anti-jw life .

  makes you wonder the role of the holy spirit in the entire nomination or appointment process.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  You state that "In all the JCs I have sat, I have always ensured the decision ended in a public reprove."

  But at the same time, you state you were appointed 6 months ago.

  Have there been THAT many JCs appointed, THAT many cases of violating the standards in half a year's time?

  Makes me VERY doubtful as to whether this is a true case or not.
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  Shark Evolution

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.

  i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..

  that's not the case, however.

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  TheOldHippie

  I don't need to have any points - YOU have them, and you so readily keep on giving them to us. Come on, give us more! I am sure you can do better than stating that doubting evolution is equal to claiming the Earth is flat?

  I am sure that is only the beginning. Can't wait to hear the rest of your dogmatism!
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  Shark Evolution

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://descrier.co.uk/science/fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=fossil-discovery-shows-model-evolution-sharks.

  i used to consider sharks to be evidence for creation - and against evolution because it was stated that they are largely unchanged after millions of years ( hence, 'what evolution?')..

  that's not the case, however.

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  TheOldHippie

  coffy asked: "How can an "evolutionist" - not a word I would ever use any more then gravitationalist - be dogmatic? Evolution is just a fact. It does not depend on dogma, it is fully supported by all the evidence."

  How funny - he managed to give an answer to his own question right away!
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  Why did Jesus tell the convict on the cross next to his, that he would be joining him in Heaven TODAY??

  by Faithful Witness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  maybe a silly question, but i'm curious about this part of the story of christ's crucifixion, when the 1 thief challenges jesus to save himself and "us too" from their deaths, but the 2nd thief rebukes him and pleads with jesus... .

  luke 23:42-43: and he said unto jesus, lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom.

  and jesus said unto him, verily i say unto thee, today shalt thou be with me in paradise.. .

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  TheOldHippie

  "So the text was probably like this without comma.

  And Jesus said unto him Verily I say unto thee Today shalt thou be with me in paradise."

  Hardly. It was in NT Greek. If one is to state what the text "probably was like", one ought to provide a word-for-word translation from the Greek. And there is no need to operate with a "probable" text, as it is readily available for example in Nestle-Aland.

  And in your "probable" text - what is your basis for writing the "today" with a capital T?
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  2014-03-29 BOE CONFIDENTIALS PDF Adjustment to financing Kingdom Hall and Assembly Hall construction worldwide

  by WatchTower87 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  2014-03-29 adjustment to financing kingdom hall and assembly hall construction worldwide.

  pdf version: http://adf.ly/juxnc.

  instruction: press the 'skip ad' button top right, you should then see the download screen more easily.

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  TheOldHippie

  How come the heading is in Italian but the text in English?
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  THE GRAND APOSTATE "WALKOUT" - January 1, 2015

  by RagingBull in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after knowing ttatt for many years now...i had made up my mind long ago that after 2014, i would no-longer subject myself to the boredom, pain, and frustration of following this cult...the wt...the borg.. so...i made up my mind that since the wtbts/gb makes such a big deal as to the "significance" of the year 1914 and this year 2014, there can be no greater time for me to leave it all behind.

  i daydreamed of how awesome and telling it would be if everyone that could ( because i do know that some have personal circumstances of their own, as i did too) would just .... walkout...never to attend/step foot in a kingdom hall from that moment on.. independence day of sorts?

  there is too much evidence, too many videos, blogs, books, news reports and lawsuits for me to keep lying to myself.

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  TheOldHippie

  Better wait till October 3rd, 2015. Just in case.
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  136th Gilead Class Graduates-JW.Org

  by Brother Mike in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i just found this video they released on their official website.

  sorry if this was already posted.

  (if not i thought some might have some thoughts about it).

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  TheOldHippie

  "Sorry if this was already posted."

  Already posted? Well yes, it was - on jw.org.