Posts by TheOldHippie

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Today I reversed preached to JW's about the scandal in Australia

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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so today a friend recommended that i ask the witnesses about the news in australia.

i am in mexico, in a city called mazatlan.. two weeks ago i talked with some jw's on the cart about the septuagint and the different bible versions.

so we had had a decently amicable conversation back then (i have never admitted i was a jw).. so today i saw them again, same place, same time.

TheOldHippie

"The second they know that JW official policies would have them expelled for trying to protect children"

Now THAT was perhaps not exactly true, was it?

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Did you know? The Watchtower called Filipinos lazy and barbaric, and CTR wrote letter to U.S. President to sell the Philippines to Japan?

by Gilgamesh in

100 years ago: wt calls filipinos lazy, barbaric; asks president to sell philippines to japan.

http://ad1914.com/.../100-years-ago-july-1915-russell-claims.../.

100 years ago: april 1915 - russell claims filipinos are lazy, barbaric; asks us president to.... main points:.

An elder, Chief MD in Honolulu clinic goes door to door. Testimony given at JW convention

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.pressreader.com/usa/honolulu-star-advertiser/20150725/281848642300889/textview.

it sounds to me like he was a jw before he became a physician.

"kalauawa, who became a jw 31 years ago, said he had to overcome a major conflict between his religious and professional beliefs, because jws are opposed to blood transfusions.

I was appointed servant and later elder while attending university. Couple of years ago, another one was appointed elder while taking specialized advanced courses following his university degree. So it differs from country to country.

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Out right lies by the Australian Branch Coordinator T. O'Brien

by Crazyguy in

i just started reading the transcript from a 2013 hearing the australian government had with the branch coordinator and their attorney and man the lies just on the first page:;the chair my question is: does the church maintain records on the number, nature and extent as well.

mr t. obrien yes, they do.. .

i'll post more when i can satan is messing with my computer,lol .

TheOldHippie

I find no lies there. What are the lies in your opinion?

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The Devouring Mother Archetype(jungian) And the Watchtower Corporation's Self Identification As Mother And Jehovah As Father

by Brokeback Watchtower in

the devouring mother must be always listen to and obeyed it is the negative side of the anima image and it rules over the watchtower corporation.

jehovah(corporation's imaginary sock puppet) is the father figure with his masculine macho swagger he gains victory over every detractor and his huge narcissistic personality demands exclusive devotion from everyone or it's the death penalty, he suffers from an inflated ego and has a very dark and evil shadow due to denial of his dark nature/satan(scape goat).

the children or rank and file pee on dedicated members of the corporation must now engage in worthless pursuits to satisfy a mood swinging domineering mother and a murderous self righteous father all the while being shown a very contemptible form of conditional love, accompanied with constant death threat reminders and a carrot on a sting to keep them focused on such and busy with worthless pursuits for a hopeless cause.

TheOldHippie

"Although, Jung’s work has made some contributions to mainstream psychology, generally modern psychologists do not employ his ideas into their theories of personality and mind. In particular, they do not give much credence to his theory of archetypes.
Ernest Jones (Freud’s biographer) wrote that Jung “descended into a pseudo-philosophy out of which he never emerged” and to many his ideas look more like New Age mystical speculation than a scientific contribution to psychology. "

"some contributions", Oubliette? He is THE contributor; the field would be next to nothing without him. Of course Jones wishes to downplay him, what else can you expect from Freud's biographer? Jung stripped Freud of most of his glory and showed him as the victim of his own grandeur personality cult.

Jung has got it all, Oubliette, whereas Freud only has got his cigar. Which he never could quit.

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WT answer to the question: Who made Jehovah's dwelling place?

by NCC-1701 in

before i pose my question, please correct me if my understanding on any of these points on wt beliefs are incorrect.. 1. jehovah god alone has existed from eternity.

he used no pre-existent material to form anything.. 2. jehovah has a literal dwelling place, albeit not made from anything from,and not contained within, creation itself.

3. jehovah god, alone, created jesus at some point before the creation of everything else.

TheOldHippie

Same kind of stupid questions as "If God is almighty, can He then create a stone heavy enough for Him not to be able to lift it?"

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What are you gonna do when the existence of god is disproved?

by Doltologist in

in 1897, j.j. thomson discovered the electron.

this was the first constituent part of the atom which, for 2,000 years, was thought to be indivisible.

today, we know of 18 elemental particles following the recent discovery of the higgs boson, the so-called god particle.. back in 1897, most people believed in god because there weren't even any theories as to how the universe came into being.

TheOldHippie

However, within the next 20 years, we will know enough about the universe to realise that it was probably a case of man inventing god, rather than the other way round.

With the discoveries in the field of molecular machines etc., God is a far more probable reality than He was before those startling discoveries were made.

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Newspaper article: 'Rise of ISIS and earthquakes are WARNINGS before ARMAGEDDON destroys Earth'

by AndersonsInfo in

http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/581439/rise-isis-earthquakes-warnings-before-armageddon-apocalypse-end-destroys-volcanoes-earth.

the "end" of mankind, which has been long predicted by jehovah's witnesses, could happen as soon as this year - according to latest announcement from the christian religion.. in the latest edition of jehovah's witnesses monthly publication watchtower, an article translated into 700 languages - urges people to join the religion or face certain death when god sends his forces from the heavens to "remove all world leaders," "exterminate his enemies" and "rid the world of satan".. critics have lambasted the warning of a coming armageddon as yet another "failed prediction" by the religion, which has previously delivered similar alerts such as a foretold apocalypse in 1975.. indeed, jehovah's witnesses have been warning people of the need to recognise jehovah or face certain death when the "end" comes for more than 100 years.. the christian-based religion was founded in the 1870s by charles taze russell in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, us, as an offshoot from the bible studies movement.. today, there are 8.2million jehovah's witness evangelists, while 19.9 million celebrated their annual memorial festival marking christ's death - worldwide in 2014.. followers do not believe in military service and will not accept blood transfusions.. in a new eight-page article, watchtower said jehovah's witness leaders are now "convinced" humans are in their "final days" before the armageddon.. they cite an increase in global armed conflict, such as the rise of the islamic state terror group, as well as natural disasters such as volcanoes and earthquakes.. the lengthy article, written by an unnamed author, said: "will god let humans continue to dominate one another and threaten the future of mankind?

no, as we have seen, he will step in and bring an end to centuries of misery and oppression.

TheOldHippie

"A spokesman for website jwfacts.com said: "One of the most misleading statements in Watchtower publications is that they accurately foretold 1914 to be the 'start' of the conclusion of this system of things.

"Rather, 1914 was predicted to be the 'End' of the system of things, the conclusion of Armageddon and the start of the Earthly paradise.""

I don't think that is correct. As far as I have seen and read, 1914 was to be the BEGINNING of Armageddon, and the start of the Earthly paradise was to be a little later, 1915-16 or so, I don't have the quote in front of me, but Russell on the wholesale collapse of governments etc. Doesn't change the fact that what they thought THEN is not what they now say that they thought then - but to be 100 % correct, I think "conclusion" should be substituted by "beginning".

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August 2015 Awake! FML

by InjusticeSystem in

i'm gonna have to stop reading this shit just for my own sanity and the survival of my computer.

august 2015 awake!.

can we please destroy this box that they keep publishing with some actual facts?

TheOldHippie

"there have been plenty of demonstrations that bacteria evolved to better exploit the resources in their environment. That is evolution and it's been reproduced in a controlled laboratory environment. Since we can reproduce it, it's obviously observable. "

Yes. And that is adaption. That is micro-evolution, not macro. Our friend Mr. Bacteria is still Mr. Bacteria.

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Did judge Rutherford piss off Hitler

by greenhornet in

the jws at the time in germany where considered part of the aryan race, (since they were not jews).

then things changed for the jws after rutherford mailed a letter to hitler bragging about jehovahs kingdom on earth.. so can we add this to the bloodshed that that the watchtower corp is responsible for?.

TheOldHippie

In stead of reading the summaries some here give - good, but still nothing but summaries - why don't you read Garbe? It's all there. Thick as a brick, but a truly great history of JWs and WWII. The pre-Hitler persecution, early Hitler acts, Rutherford's attempts at coming to terms, Balzereit, conventions, campaigns, internal strife within the camps, factions among the JWs - it's all there. So summaries here are nothing "new", nothing that is "hidden from the JWs", "shocking news" or anything like that. Read Garbe - or a couple of the other good German historians for that matter. Good books. And nothing neither a JW or an ex-JW should be afraid of. Just plain good old-fashioned research with all the pro's and con's, all the successes and setbacks.