"Jehovah’s Witnesses who actually believed that people who get transfusions are going to hell. They ridiculed me on the bus, and they spat in our faces when we opened the front door."
Yeah, sure! Has all the ring of truthfullness to it.
TheOldHippie
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Haemaphilliac Doctor talks of JW neighbours cruelty
by Diogenesister ini got my fingers burnt last time i copied a post from reddit, but this one made me so mad i had to show you guys.
i think its possible that the witnesses antagonism was exaggerated in his child's mind, never-the-less any nastiness to a sick child is beyond the pale.
the hospital i trained in lost nearly every last one of its 500 haemaphilliacs to aids - i think around 30 survived from this era.http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/when-doctors-need-doctors-after-dodging-death-sentence-looking-cure.
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1950 Watchtower Bound Volume now Complete!
by Atlantis inthe 1950 september 15th watchtower is now complete and this will finish the 1950 watchtower bound volume.
a big thank you to jaydee for all of his hard work of scanning the watchtowers into jpg files which i received and converted into pdf files and made them searchable.
jaydee worked day and night to get these files finished for us and i really appreciate his kindness... we only had to darken out one name on one shipping label.
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TheOldHippie
OK.
After all the hard work - could you please show me, then, what changes you have found in the 1950 volume you have made when compared to the 1950 bound reprints and when compared to the DVD 1950 version.
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I have a question.
by DATA-DOG inaccording to jwism, god didn't cause suffering, he just allowed it.
wow, that's really, really, dumb.
to help humans out, jeehoobidoob provided the ransom.
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TheOldHippie
If trying to pose a question or start a discussion, I do feel one should avoid words as these in the first place,
"JWism", "that's really, really, dumb", "Jeehoobidoob", "Jehobo", ""old, fat, wrinkly, bald, crippled, "imperfect" J-dumbs", "bated breath", "Jarhoobity", "sisters they needed to boink", "Jeehoober"
It strongly gives the expression you are a child desperately eager to show how tough he is, how many "tough" words he can manage to use. Childish.
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Peace and Security!
by biblexaminer inwatchtower teaches that soon there will be a huge development that will be a sign for jehovah's witnesses!
5:3 the watchtower magazine, principle journal of jehovah's witnesses, writes.... however, just before that day of jehovah begins, world leaders will be saying “peace and security!” this may refer to one event or to a series of events.
https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20120915/world-end/#?insight[search_id]=2038590d-e4a0-4101-89db-27102bef34ba&insight[search_result_index]=19.
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TheOldHippie
"Of course, " it will come out in the Watchtower" ...as so many have repeated for so very long.Yes, JW's await the GB to write something to them via the Watchtower magazine. They wait. And wait."
What is Your basis for saying so? Where have you found stated that the JW community is to wait for a written statement in the WT magazine to tell them that "NOW the GT has started"?
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Memorial 2016
by Flg8ter inthe memorial is on march 23 this year.
but all the official jewish calendars has nissan 14 as april 22!
april 22 is the start of passover!
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TheOldHippie
This year, it is actually the Jews that are one month off. I found this on http://www.studiesintheword.org/jewish_calendar_errors.htm
Why the Jewish Calendar will be Incorrect in 2016
This article explains why most observant Jews and others following the Jewish calendar will be celebrating God's annual Holy Days one month late in 2016.
In trying to follow Exodus 12:2, Exodus 13:3-4, 7-10, and Numbers 9:2-3, Judaism says that Passover, which they celebrate on Nisan 15 rather than on Nisan 14, must not fall before the northern hemisphere spring equinox (Tekufot Nisan). The spring equinox currently occurs each year on March 20th or 21st and is that time when day and night are of approximately equal length. The spring equinox establishes the first day of spring. It is a solar, not a lunar, phenomenon.
But current Jewish calendar procedures periodically conflict with the use of the equinox to establish the first month of the religious year:
In 2016, Nisan 14 (Passover) can fall on March 22, the first opportunity for the 14th day of a Biblical month to occur after the equinox. But the Jewish calendar sets Nisan 14 at April 22nd. Why? Because the Jewish year 5776 (the spring months of 2016 fall within the Jewish year 5776) happens to be the 19th year of the 19-year calendar cycle and is then, by Judaic definition, a leap year (the 13th month must be added). This forces the first month to begin one month later than it normally would. Unfortunately, their calendar leap year tradition is so rigid that they fail to follow what we agree is the correct interpretation of the scriptures listed above, that God gave them, which strongly imply that the Passover must be kept at the first opportunity on or after the spring equinox.
What allows them to ignore their own calendar rules? One reason they feel free to adjust the calendar to their liking is because Leviticus 23:2 and 4 are interpreted by Jewish Oral Law as saying that the people are allowed to keep the Holy Days on whatever day is most convenient.
It should be pointed out that the Jewish calendar leap year designations are NOT Biblical.
Let's add a little more detail: The spring equinox occurs on March 20th at 4:40 PM, Jerusalem time. The Jewish calendar calculates the new moon of Adar II (the 13th month of the previous religious calendar year) to be at 9:31 PM on March 8th and, due to the postponements of the previous Tishri 1, March 11th as the first day of the month. Either day will place the 14th day of Adar II on or after the spring equinox and thus the month should be Nisan (Abib), not Adar II. The result of this error is that the Jewish calendar is ONE MONTH LATE from March 2016 through March 2017! By making 5776 a leap year, they ignore the fact that, by their own interpretation of the Torah, Passover must be observed at the first opportunity on or after the spring equinox. This is the way the lunar calendar is kept synchronized with the solar calendar, and is an essential part in keeping the Passover (and every other Holy Day) in its season.
But some may wonder why it matters when Abib occurs, as long as it is in the spring. One of the major justifications why Abib should be assigned to the first qualifying month relative to the spring equinox is that there needs to be a consistency between years so that crops will be in approximately the same stage of development at the same time each year. The importance of the maturity of grain for the wave-sheaf offering (Lev. 23:9-14) is obvious. Another reason is that the one month delay will push the Feast of Tabernacles (Sukkot) too late and too close to the Israeli fall rainy season. For this reason we should avoid delaying Abib until the second month after the equinox as the Jewish calendar does in 2016. It is peculiar how the spring equinox is called "Tekufot Nisan", but when a conflict with the designated leap year occurs, the equinox is forced to fall in Adar II, not Nisan.
The Church of God Most High believes that the first day of every month must begin at the true conjunction of the sun and moon (the new moon) and that Passover (Abib or Nisan 14) must occur at the first opportunity on or after the spring equinox. That places Abib 1 on March 9th and Tishri 1 on September 1st. The result of all this is that in 2016 the Jewish calendar will keep the holydays one lunar month late.
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FORENSIC ANALYSIS: The Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie
by Terry inpattern of excuses.
example #1. blame the bible !.
proclaimer's book*** jv chap.
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TheOldHippie
And just to have said it - I have always found no. 3 disturbing - the world before 1914 was so troublesome that it was hard to see how the End could be postponed that long, how could one endure? - but now it is said that the world before 1914 was a peaceful world which was ruined by the 1914 events. -
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FORENSIC ANALYSIS: The Governing Body as Lying Liars who Lie
by Terry inpattern of excuses.
example #1. blame the bible !.
proclaimer's book*** jv chap.
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TheOldHippie
I was just wondering about no. 2:
DISTORT the MEANING of WHAT YOU (previously)TAUGHT
(What was actually taught: "… from the beginning of the Lord’s presence in 1874 the Devil used the Papal system as the chief opposing instrument of God’s kingdom …" Watchtower1930 p.275
(False claim: " The Watchtower has consistently presented evidence to honest hearted students of Bible prophecy that Jesus’ presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914. Events since that year testify to Jesus' invisible presence." Watchtower 1993 Jan 15 p.5
I have not the magazines in front of me, but is it not that just as it is stated that the presence started in 1914 with His coming and will end with His coming again in another sence during the Great Tribulation - that they also back then said that His coming in 1874 was the beginning of the judgmental period, and that it would end after 40 years - 1914 - with His coming at that time (1914) as Heavenly King. That in a way it is correct to say that they have always stated His presence in heavenly Kingdom power began in 1914, because His presence in 1874 was NOT in Kingdom power? I KNOW this is playing with words, but is it not in a way true - seen from within?
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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TheOldHippie
sheperdless, "Surely God could not have always just existed; that makes no sense."
But before matter existed, there existed no time. So "Jesus was with God for countless millions of years" - well, he wasn't because time did not exist before creation. If, of course, a spirit being is void of matter. But imgaining a "time" when time did not exist - gives me headache and makes me grab my daily bottle of wine. If God is outside the Universe, in an "area" where there is no matter - he could not have created during so and so many years, but then he created everything in an instant, whereas the results of that act of creation expanded, lasted, forwards in time.
This evening is going to be long. And heavy.
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This thread is for proof that God exists
by juandefiero inhowever, i haven't found any evidence to support that belief.. have you?
if so please, show me the evidence that god exists, and i will believe along with you.. criteria:.
(1) you must specify which god you are talking about;.
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TheOldHippie
Then I guess this is the thread that really would make you the most famous, revered and hailed person in the history of mankind! And imagine - finding that person and that argument - right here! -
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1950 Watchtower Bound Volume now Complete!
by Atlantis inthe 1950 september 15th watchtower is now complete and this will finish the 1950 watchtower bound volume.
a big thank you to jaydee for all of his hard work of scanning the watchtowers into jpg files which i received and converted into pdf files and made them searchable.
jaydee worked day and night to get these files finished for us and i really appreciate his kindness... we only had to darken out one name on one shipping label.
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TheOldHippie
What is the use in doing this when it is readily available on the CD - or DVD, as it is now? Some years ago they could be ordered at the counter, the Bethel reprints. So this work is already done, by the WT itself. And by the way, I have both the originals as single magazines, the bound reprints and the DVD, so what's the fuzz?