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  Words omitted from a Watchtower article

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a short time ago i sought information regarding a quotation in the watchtower of april 1, 2010, which did not identify the exact source of the quotation from professor oskar skarsaune.

  my interest was heightened because words had been omitted from the source.. the wts provided a copy of the original 29-page article, which is in norwegian.. here is my very unofficial personal translation of the passage from professor skarsaune's article that the watchtower is quoting.

  firstly i provide the text as it appears in the watchtower magazine, highlighting where the text has been omitted.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Watchtower wants followers to think that the Bible Canon was closed by the Apostles, not at some later period by the Church."

  Not quite so, is it? "Scripture Inspired" book has a chapter on this, and ends with a list of canon identifying when compiled etc., and it is nowhere stated that the Apostles themselves decided on which books.

  Name and Place
  Muratorian Irenaeus, Clement of Tertullian,
  Fragment, Asia Minor Alexandria N. Africa
  Italy
  Approximate
  Date C.E. 170 180 190 207
  Matthew A A A A
  Mark A A A A
  Luke A A A A
  John A A A A
  Acts A A A A
  Romans A A A A
  1 Corinthians A A A A
  2 Corinthians A A A A
  Galatians A A A A
  Ephesians A A A A
  Philippians A A A A
  Colossians A A A A
  1 Thessalonians A A A A
  2 Thessalonians A A A A
  1 Timothy A A A A
  2 Timothy A A A A
  Titus A A A A
  Philemon A A
  Hebrews D DA DA
  James ?
  1 Peter A? A A A
  2 Peter D? A
  1 John A A DA A
  2 John A A DA
  3 John A?
  Jude A DA A
  Revelation A A A A
  Name and Place
  Origen, Eusebius, Cyril of Cheltenham
  Alexandria Palestine Jerusalem List,
  N. Africa
  Approximate
  Date C.E. 230 320 348 365
  Matthew A A A A
  Mark A A A A
  Luke A A A A
  John A A A A
  Acts A A A A
  Romans A A A A
  1 Corinthians A A A A
  2 Corinthians A A A A
  Galatians A A A A
  Ephesians A A A A
  Philippians A A A A
  Colossians A A A A
  1 Thessalonians A A A A
  2 Thessalonians A A A A
  1 Timothy A A A A
  2 Timothy A A A A
  Titus A A A A
  Philemon A A A A
  Hebrews DA DA A
  James DA DA A
  1 Peter A A A A
  2 Peter DA DA A D
  1 John A A A A
  2 John DA DA A D
  3 John DA DA A D
  Jude DA DA A
  Revelation A DA A
  Name and Place
  Athanasius, Epiphanius, Gregory Amphilocius,
  Alexandria Palestine Nazianzus, Asia Minor
  Asia Minor
  Approximate
  Date C.E. 367 368 370 370
  Matthew A A A A
  Mark A A A A
  Luke A A A A
  John A A A A
  Acts A A A A
  Romans A A A A
  1 Corinthians A A A A
  2 Corinthians A A A A
  Galatians A A A A
  Ephesians A A A A
  Philippians A A A A
  Colossians A A A A
  1 Thessalonians A A A A
  2 Thessalonians A A A A
  1 Timothy A A A A
  2 Timothy A A A A
  Titus A A A A
  Philemon A A A A
  Hebrews A A A DA
  James A A A A
  1 Peter A A A A
  2 Peter A A A D
  1 John A A A A
  2 John A A A D
  3 John A A A D
  Jude A A A D
  Revelation A DA D
  Name and Place
  Philaster, Jerome, Augustine, Third
  Italy Italy N. Africa Council of
  Carthage,
  N. Africa
  Approximate
  Date C.E. 383 394 397 397
  Matthew A A A A
  Mark A A A A
  Luke A A A A
  John A A A A
  Acts A A A A
  Romans A A A A
  1 Corinthians A A A A
  2 Corinthians A A A A
  Galatians A A A A
  Ephesians A A A A
  Philippians A A A A
  Colossians A A A A
  1 Thessalonians A A A A
  2 Thessalonians A A A A
  1 Timothy A A A A
  2 Timothy A A A A
  Titus A A A A
  Philemon A A A A
  Hebrews DA DA A A
  James A DA A A
  1 Peter A A A A
  2 Peter A DA A A
  1 John A A A A
  2 John A DA A A
  3 John A DA A A
  Jude A DA A A
  Revelation DA DA A A
  
  
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  Chitty

  by StopTheTears in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've learned that many years ago, there was a man named brother chitty of some prominence in the jehovah's witnesses organization.

  it fact, chitty was a member of the governing body.

  chitty was asked to resign his position after serving for many years and nothing much was ever said about it to jehovahs witnesses.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Fisherman...crawl back under your rock. You are a JW and that's where you belong. I won't feed trolls."

  Yeah, so much for discussion. "You're free to speak Your mind, my friend, as long as you agree with me"
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  Would you have married your spouse if you weren't both JWs?

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i've had some wine, but i'm curious.

  objectively speaking, but for the religion, did you have enough in common with your spouse to have met and married as non believers?

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  TheOldHippie

  Back stabbing a spouse publicly never was something to engage in.
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  After leaving what did you Major in?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am curious if my observations are correct.

  i noticed alot of exjws end up majoring in the social sciences.

  i am also interested in what educational choices people have made either while fading or while completely out.

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  TheOldHippie

  I Majored in sociology and linguistics WHILE in.
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  Would you have married your spouse if you weren't both JWs?

  by 3rdgen in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok, i've had some wine, but i'm curious.

  objectively speaking, but for the religion, did you have enough in common with your spouse to have met and married as non believers?

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  TheOldHippie

  This is a thread I sincerely hope no-one will respond to.
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  Greg Stafford no longer a JW

  by My Struggle in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this may be old news to some while most won't even know who he is.

  in case you don't know him, he was a jw that defended many of the jw doctrine publicly.

  he did this mainly in the form of two books, jw's defended and three dissertations on the teachings of jw's.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Greg Stafford is pictured on page 2 of the March 2016 meeting work book."

  That is NOT Greg!
  
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  The March JW broadcast, presented by paedophile enabler Geoffery Jackson

  by jambon1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  all warm and fluffy this month after the utterly laughable 'bread' broadcast.

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  i'll always be grateful to the australian royal commission for allowing us to see this duplicitous, lying, creep, shown up as a snivelling, suck up, asshole, taken completely out of his self appointed authoritarian comfort zone.. anyway, a not too interesting broadcast i have to say..

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  TheOldHippie

  "So now they want the sisters to make the bread???? Store bought isn't good enough??"

  Not exactly NOW, as descriptions of how to bake the bread have been given for decades in the WT, so there is no use for four question marks as if this is something new. Store bought? I don't think I have ever come across a store that has passover bread. No doubt they have it in specialized stores, but my guess is they are rather scarce.
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  How did you feel when they eliminated the Con. Book Study?

  by Freeandclear in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  years ago when i was "in" i loved the book study.

  it was my favorite meeting by far.

  mainly because it was a small group.

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  TheOldHippie

  I was and am sad about it. It was the nicest meeting, you got to know the others, you could ask questions, you had time to discuss things, very often there was food or cakes - I miss it.
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  Haemaphilliac Doctor talks of JW neighbours cruelty

  by Diogenesister in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i got my fingers burnt last time i copied a post from reddit, but this one made me so mad i had to show you guys.

  i think its possible that the witnesses antagonism was exaggerated in his child's mind, never-the-less any nastiness to a sick child is beyond the pale.

  the hospital i trained in lost nearly every last one of its 500 haemaphilliacs to aids - i think around 30 survived from this era.http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/when-doctors-need-doctors-after-dodging-death-sentence-looking-cure.

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  TheOldHippie

  "Jehovah’s Witnesses who actually believed that people who get transfusions are going to hell. They ridiculed me on the bus, and they spat in our faces when we opened the front door."

  Yeah, sure! Has all the ring of truthfullness to it.
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  1950 Watchtower Bound Volume now Complete!

  by Atlantis in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the 1950 september 15th watchtower is now complete and this will finish the 1950 watchtower bound volume.

  a big thank you to jaydee for all of his hard work of scanning the watchtowers into jpg files which i received and converted into pdf files and made them searchable.

  jaydee worked day and night to get these files finished for us and i really appreciate his kindness... we only had to darken out one name on one shipping label.

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  TheOldHippie

  OK.

  After all the hard work - could you please show me, then, what changes you have found in the 1950 volume you have made when compared to the 1950 bound reprints and when compared to the DVD 1950 version.