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  A cheeky cigarette in Adelaide

  by wozza in

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  my partner has been going to the adelaide law courts recently and as she goes thru the topham mall she has said hello to the jw cart ladies on her way ,well, today one of the ladies she observed went around the corner from the cart and lit up a ciggy...so naughty.. my partner has never been a witness but she knows i was once and asked me if they were allowed to smoke now.. jeez they get up to some naughty stuff when they are lounging around on their phones ,must be the devils tools corrupting them ha ha.

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  TheOldHippie

  " of the ladies she observed went around the corner from the cart and lit up a ciggy."

  Yeah, sure.
  
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

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  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  Never heard it myself, only rumours. Might it not be that someone has said - as I myself might say on occasion - that "wow! this is a nice place, I would not mind living here" - and then that statement has been mis-interpreted?
  
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  Do JW beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you?

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  I in fact respect other people and I respect their beliefs. There are many things other people believe that I do not agree with, but I never ridicule them for their beliefs. I say I disagree, I try to discuss in a calm manner, I try to put things as nicely as possible. Ridicule - no. There are so many reasons why people believe as they do, each of them/us has so much of a load to carry, so much background, that I would never ridicule. When I come to know somebody good, I can criticise, not until then - but never ridicule.
  
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  Germany in charge of all treasury for Europe

  by sp74bb in

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  according to our sources, germany bethel will take in charge all treasuries for all europe starting sept 1st.. each bethel will deliver the funds as a donation to german legal entity.. gold ages for ibsa and other entities in eu are over :).

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  Not all European countries allow funds collected thru donations being transferred to other countries.
  
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  Ahh, WT Writers

  by berrygerry in

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  the famous may 22, 1969 "never grow old in this system" awake.. in 1968 there was a fantastic 17-percent increase in crime over 1967. this came on top of many years of other large increases.

  the population, however, grew only one percent last year.

  so crime exploded seventeen times as fast as the population!.

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  It is "funny" - for those of us who understand it, but I never stop being amazed at how difficult it is for many to do percentage math or calculate increase/decrease or combine this with "x times as many", "threefold", "half as many", "three and a half times the size" etc. Tell a number to a journalist and you are almost certain of it being misunderstood.
  
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  Who are the "Inactive"?

  by thereishope in

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  this was my starting point in this journey of rediscovery, and i've made great strides, but here i am again asking the same question.

  all this talk re the rc and the shunning of the inactive ones.

  there is no announcement made obviously about "shun sister so-and-so, as she is inactive.

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  An inactive one is a publisher who has not been out in service / has not turned in a service report for the last 6 months. Hence it is not a thing a single elder can decide, but is based on the missing reports.
  
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  And in Richard Barber's life story (WT 1965)

  The prisoners were being transferred to Atlanta penitentiary. Brother Frank Horth, Sister Van Amburgh and Sister Fisher and Sister Agnes Hudgings, a stenographer, and myself hastened over to the station. Brother Rutherford there gave me some instructions. If we were harassed too much by the police, we were to sell Bethel and the Brooklyn Tabernacle and move to either Philadelphia, Harrisburg or Pittsburgh, as our corporation was in Pennsylvania. A price of $60,000 was suggested for Bethel, and $25,000 for the tabernacle. When the train was ready, Brother Rutherford took Brother Horth and Sister Hudgings on the train with him. They rode for a distance while Brother Rutherford dictated a letter of instructions to Brother Horth, assigning him to sell Bethel and the Tabernacle. Arriving back in Bethel, Sister Hudgings made copies of this letter of instructions for us. The Tabernacle was sold, if my memory serves me aright, for only $16,000. Later Bethel was sold to the government and all arrangements made except the transfer of cash, when the armistice was signed; but providentially the sale of Bethel was never accomplished.
  
  
  
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
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  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  How come you have never heard of them? Hudgings is mentioned in the JW history book, page 73:

  After a lengthy discussion, W. F. Hudgings, a director of the Peoples Pulpit Association, read to the audience a letter from Brother Rutherford. In it he sent love and greetings to those assembled. “Satan’s chief weapons are PRIDE, AMBITION and FEAR,” he warned. Showing a desire to submit to Jehovah’s will, he even humbly suggested suitable men in the event that the shareholders should decide to elect new officers for the Society.
  
  
  
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  Why are some that post here JW apologists?

  by ctrwtf in

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  my rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.

  those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.

  those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.

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  "Why are some that post here JW apologists?"

  Just about the strangest question I have ever seen. Maybe my memory does not serve me well any more, but wasn't this supposed to be a discussion board? And then you ask why someone has opinions different from those of the others? A discussion board without discussion, critisism of those having certain opinions not because of the opinions but because they utter them here - you seem to fit neatly into exactly the sort of behaviour you are critizising others for having.
  
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  Belgium Bethel on sale...

  by sp74bb in

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  according to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....

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  TheOldHippie

  
  I really don’t see the big problem in the closing of the branch offices. The data revolution has simplified so much that the same amount of people as earlier are not required any more. You can’t have a Bethel where half the staff is cutting the hair of the other half, and why is it that grown ups can’t prepare their own breakfast or make their own beds? The things I do at work today required tens of people a couple of decades ago. Sentimentality would ask for a branch close to where you live - but the WT never was much into sentimentality.