Posts by TheOldHippie

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Changed Wording in February 2017 WT Article

by Ding in

the february 2017 wt had stated that the gb is "neither inspired nor infallible" and that it can make errors in doctrine.. the language of the online wt issue now says, “the governing body is neither inspired nor perfect.

therefore, it can make mistakes when explaining the bible or directing the organization.”.

why the change?

TheOldHippie

pdf says infallible - no change

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Fudging The Numbers JW Style

by pale.emperor in

i know most of us have probably figured this out already, but remember the good old days where you could only count full hours in the ministry?.

then one of the gb get some "new light" from their ass and proclaim that they lovingly will allow people to report 30mins, then even 15mins of time.

this was, supposedly, so that the old and infirm could have a joy in the ministry and report what little they could do.

TheOldHippie

you're now able to count family worship - No, you are not

studying with an inactive one - That has been the case for decades, after you are asked to do so

studying with your children - That has also been the case for decades

etc etc - What is "etc. etc."? - are you suggesting dogs?

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Archive of the Watchtwoer

by universitystudent in

hey everyone.

i'm a university student very interested in the history of the jehova's witnesses, from the university of fribourg, switzerland.

i would like to do an analysis of pictures of africa in the watchtower for a small research project.

TheOldHippie

Then why do you ask your question here? If you want access to the older WTs, ask the Central European Branch Office at Selters, Germany.

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

TheOldHippie

to included electronic downloads rather than just physical copies

NO

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The increasing WT magazine

by darkspilver in

jw
friends

apart from the interesting block color change for the title strip on the front page.... the new 2017 wt mag has some new (updated printing figures):.

2016: produced each issue: 58,987,000 available in 282 languages .

2017: produced each issue: 61,651,000 available in 294 languages.

TheOldHippie

You are mixing up two different things. The number of magazines produced has nothing to do with the number of magazines delivered/placed. One downloaded magazine has no bearing on the number produced. If you want the number of delivered/placed magazines, turn to the Yearbook or similar publication.

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HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

by WTS Archive in

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friends

tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

ps.

TheOldHippie

Yeah, sure, no. 1:

"One day she decided to invite few JWs over to her place for dinner. The Scottish brothers asked her to play some Polish kingdom songs, so she opened YouTube and searched. But instead of kingdom songs, a film about a judicial committee in Berlin popped out. They all watched it,"

Yeah, sure, no. 2:

"imagine the surprise of the court when on that day the courtroom was empty - none of the 24 JWs who were ordered to come showed up. They only sent a letter to the court that they will not show up because... their Christian conscience forbids them to show up!"

Yeah, sure, no. 3:

"Just outside the door she sees a local elder and his wife, both her ex-employees. The elder shouts to her - "how you dare to speak against the organization!", and his wife approached and... spit the sister in the face."

And as others have remarked – how utterly strange that there has been no press coverage. There seems to be no limit for what fabricated stories one can come up with.

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A stunning piece of LOGIC from the Apostle Paul

by nicolaou in

1st corinthians 15 12-17. but if it is preached that christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead?

if there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even christ has been raised.

and if christ has not been raised, your faith is futile... .

TheOldHippie

Well said, slimboyfat. Could (almost) not have formulated it better myself

TOH

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Catholic Approach to Scripture: How It Made Me Leave the Jehovah's Witnesses

by Hernandez in

indoctrinated into all things watchtower, i once believed the bible was true history, that evolution was false and evil, and that the bible could be trusted to be reliable when it touched on science issues.

then i got introduced to the official catholic bible translation of u.s. catholics, the new american bible revised edition (or nabre--not to be confused with the protestant nasv or new american standard version) and things changed.

i was shocked to learn that the nabre teaches.... the creation and flood stories of genesis are jewish adaptations of mesopotamian heathen creation-flood mythology, not history.

TheOldHippie

The Catholics can have a relaxed attitude to the Scriptures, and can make excellent Bible translations like the Jerusalem Bible, because they don't have to find support for their teachings in Scripture - they've got Tradition. Scripture and Tradition are the two foundations, and what they don't find in Scripture, they get from Tradition. Therefore, they don't have to twist what the Bible says. The Protestants on the other hand, with their "The Scripture only" approach, HAVE to find support for their teachings in the Bible, and so you get the twisting and desperate search for words and verses that can be used as a feeble support for Trinity teaching etc.

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I am deeply ashamed that I didn't accept evolution until a few years ago...

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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friends

so... i live in mexico and i am helping with an esl class (english as a second language).

actually, i am helping with two classes.

i get two days a week in which i just stand there and have a debate with the class, encouraging as many as possible to just talk... in english.. anyways, i like talking about subjects that generate debate.

TheOldHippie

"Please tell me which books that present the scientific evidence FOR evolution you have studied in recent years?"

Oh, I simply LOVE such arguments! Just in the line of "no-one doubts that", "only the uninformed could think that", "not one single serious scientist doubts that" etc.

Throwing in the whole weight of the establishment. Trying to make the other guy look like a Complete fool. Rejoicing when he is finally having to admit "none".

You may win the discussion - but you definitely lose sympathy and the possibility of carrying on a respectful discussion.

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Been witnessing today - first time in over 2 years!!

by The Searcher in

and it felt wonderful!!.

i went into the city to where i knew there was a "cosmopolitan witnessing" trolley, because i wanted to ask a simple bible-based question.

the trolley was attended by an elder and a sister who was another elder's wife.

TheOldHippie

Far-fetched using John 5:29 in my eyes.