Posts by TheOldHippie

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

TheOldHippie

"I think they will launch a new explanation for some of their Revelation book interpretations. As they did last year with most of Mathew 24, they will move some Revelation fulfillments to the future. It has not much sense to link the trumpets of Revelation to some pamphlets/conventions released/held in the twenties.

Most people who “heard” those trumpets, or at least was old enough to understand the message, is dead by now. So why don’t move this to a future event?"

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This is not the current understanding or explanation. The messages or warnings STARTED in the said years, but then have continued to be given ever since. So the trumpets are still being sounded.

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

TheOldHippie

"third millennium B.C.E" translated issue said 3000 BC - so I guess it must be a mistranslation.

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USA | Man Allegedly Fires Gun at a Group of Jehovah's Witnesses

by jwleaks in

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friends

usa, arkansas | man fires gun at a group of jehovah's witnesses.

centerton police arrested a man accused of firing close to 19 rounds at a group of jehovahs witnesses on saturday (sept. 28th).

john baldwin, 35, bonded out on $50,000 sunday morning.. according to a probable cause affidavit, three jehovahs witnesses approached baldwin in his front yard at rainbow farm road and baldwin told them, get your (explicit) off my property, i moved out here to get away from people like you.. the report states the jehovahs witnesses apologized and as they were getting in their car one of them heard get me my 9.. baldwin admitted to firing a gun at three jehovahs witnesses when they drove away from his house, according to the report.. baldwin was booked into benton county jail on felony charges of aggravated assault.. several of baldwins neighbors said he moved to the neighborhood less than a month ago.. kristi tidwell who lives nearby said she was home when police arrived at her neighbors home.. my husband and i were working around the house, we had the blinds open in the back we saw probably seven or eight cop cars pulling in there, tidwell said.

TheOldHippie

I was threatened to be shot together with my then 5 years old son, as we talked to a man in a farm house. He took his rifle down from the wall and started loading. Man, is that low. In another place, on a return visit, the guy was then visibly drunk and yelled at me to leave. I did. His house was at the end of a mile-long path going thru the fields, and as I started walking, he came out of the house, rifle in hand, and aimed at me. I remember the whole time I walked the path I could sense the bullett in my back. Horrible feeling.

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The Lawsuit Landslide: Irwin Zalkin representing ELEVEN child abuse victims against Watchtower

by cedars in

many of you will be interested to know that irwin zalkin now has 11 lawsuits against watchtower at various stages.. these can be summarized as follows.... j.l.

shocked by the lack of action, the victims mother immediately left the congregation with her son.

by this stage campos was a known predator with complaints having been made to the elders at linda vista spanish, playa pacifica spanish and the watchtower dating back to 1982.elizabeth mcfarland ohio a former ministerial servant named scott silvasy sexually molested elizabeth when she was a child through her early teens.

TheOldHippie

"However there is a case in antoher state (I'm in Cali) that could breech that a bit. A person in the hall took a young girl and raped her. He recorded the rape because he was especially sick. He got caught and went to jail, but the elders on the judicial comitee sat there with the yound girl and the parents and listened to the tape with them, asking the girl to explain what was happening as they went through it piece by piece with pauses so she could explain what was happening.

Really? Imagine now how those parents must feel shame for not standing up, slapping those guys three stooges style and just walking out of the room."

The problem is that this is what takes place in EVERY court whenever an abuse case is tried, and slick defence lawyers are trying as hard as they can to destroy the reputation and coherence of the abused. And this I KNOW. From personal experience. For three hours that scumbag lawyer abused her for the second time thru his way of dealing with her in court, and managed to get the monster freed. While at the same time seriously hurting her. If only I had had a knife, the monster would not have been able to leave the courthouse with all limbs intact.

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

TheOldHippie

...... and it would do away with one (or, THE) MAJOR stumbling block!

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AGM 5 OCTOBER 2013 (UNOFFICIAL RUMORS)

by WatchTower87 in

- 23 day to go .. annual meeting unofficial rumors.

- new bible.

- new nwt (revision).

TheOldHippie

First of all, the HQ is NOT called the Branch - these are tro separate things, the Branch is the center of the US activity, the HQ is the center of the worldwide activity. Two separate entities.

One very wise comment was made, "if there is a major doctrinal shift rolled out at the annual meeting, it will be something that they've already begun to downplay or at least haven't mentioned in awhile"

If you look at the organization brochure issued a couple of years ago, you will notice when it discusses the servant / gb, that it says more or less nothing, it does not say that it represents the remnant - and that is because the change to the gb being the servant was already on its way, and it would be strange to suddenly change the teaching a few months after a brochure had been issued. Likewise now, you cannot change 1914 a month after it has been stated as the start of the last days at a wt study. Look for something that has not been mentioned for a while, that has been downplayed, that has been a bit watery lately, and that is where a possible change will come.

Was I the only one that noticed that in the article on babel and the origin of languages, a stone tablet with Babylonian writing was labelled as dating from around year 3,000 BC? But year 3,000 - that is 500 years before the flood......................

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If the big change at the AGM meeting is dropping the literal 144,000...

by slimboyfat in

the best conjecture seems to be that the gb are going to drop the literal 144,000 teaching, especially in view of the december watchtower that pointedly does not mention the 144,000 number.

if they are dropping the literal 144,000 number, but still claim that only a small number are anointed, and can partake, and that only a few are left on earth, then it is fair to ask what has really changed?

they are simply clearing up the embarrassing situation that there were obviously more than 144,000 "anointed" believers from 36 ad until now, and that the number of partakers has been increasing in recent years.

TheOldHippie

ONE change would matter, at least to me, and that is the ONLY only that REALLY matters - that the Noachian flood was global ...............

To little time, man, too little time for all them empires and trade routes and cities to come into existence, too little time.

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Searcher, as for the Kingdom Interlinear - I do not have it at hand - but the Greek word-for-word column and the translated column are based on two different manuscripts, look it up in the foreword. Hence differences.

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WTS admits (indirectly) decreasing in U.S. publisher ratio to population

by Gayle in

service year reports:.

2010 - 1/259.

so, the wts is not keeping up with the u.s. population (and they know it), though it rants about increasing pubs., etc..

TheOldHippie

Memorial attendance has always fluctuated depending on what day of the week it is celebrated. The cousins ain't as faithful as the brothers.

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Sun Valley Jehovahs Witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boys

by truthseekeriam in

sun valley jehovahs witness church usher pleads no contest to sex acts with underage boysby city news service.

posted: 09/12/13, 4:25 pm pdt |.

van nuys >> a man who was an usher at a kingdom hall of jehovahs witnesses in sun valley pleaded no contest thursday to sex-related counts involving three boys he met there.. marcelo lozano, 34, of sun valley, pleaded no contest to two counts of continuous sexual abuse and one count of oral copulation of a person under 14.. he is facing 30 years in state prison when he is sentenced oct. 8 by van nuys superior court judge leslie dunn.. lozano is also expected to be ordered to register as a sex offender for the rest of his life following his release from prison.. .

TheOldHippie

Please forgive my ignorance - but what is an "usher"?

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Apostate article in new December 15, 2013 Watchtower lead article major contradiction of featured scripture 2 Thess. 2:1,2

by Poindexter Lionel Humperdique in

the below is the title and theme scripture of the lead article in the latest watchtower about apostates.

notice that the watchtower is unknowingly labeling themselves as an apostate, as the man of lawlessness, as we briefly review the context of its own theme scripture.. .

avoid being quickly shaken from your reason!.

TheOldHippie

A quick check comparing translations and commentaries, sums it up in this commentary: day of Christ—The oldest manuscripts read, "day of the Lord."

So then you are back to the question, who is the "Lord" in this verse?