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  Ahh, WT Writers

  by berrygerry in

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  the famous may 22, 1969 "never grow old in this system" awake.. in 1968 there was a fantastic 17-percent increase in crime over 1967. this came on top of many years of other large increases.

  the population, however, grew only one percent last year.

  so crime exploded seventeen times as fast as the population!.

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  TheOldHippie

  It is "funny" - for those of us who understand it, but I never stop being amazed at how difficult it is for many to do percentage math or calculate increase/decrease or combine this with "x times as many", "threefold", "half as many", "three and a half times the size" etc. Tell a number to a journalist and you are almost certain of it being misunderstood.
  
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  Who are the "Inactive"?

  by thereishope in

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  this was my starting point in this journey of rediscovery, and i've made great strides, but here i am again asking the same question.

  all this talk re the rc and the shunning of the inactive ones.

  there is no announcement made obviously about "shun sister so-and-so, as she is inactive.

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  TheOldHippie

  An inactive one is a publisher who has not been out in service / has not turned in a service report for the last 6 months. Hence it is not a thing a single elder can decide, but is based on the missing reports.
  
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

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  2. beliefs

  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  TheOldHippie

  And in Richard Barber's life story (WT 1965)

  The prisoners were being transferred to Atlanta penitentiary. Brother Frank Horth, Sister Van Amburgh and Sister Fisher and Sister Agnes Hudgings, a stenographer, and myself hastened over to the station. Brother Rutherford there gave me some instructions. If we were harassed too much by the police, we were to sell Bethel and the Brooklyn Tabernacle and move to either Philadelphia, Harrisburg or Pittsburgh, as our corporation was in Pennsylvania. A price of $60,000 was suggested for Bethel, and $25,000 for the tabernacle. When the train was ready, Brother Rutherford took Brother Horth and Sister Hudgings on the train with him. They rode for a distance while Brother Rutherford dictated a letter of instructions to Brother Horth, assigning him to sell Bethel and the Tabernacle. Arriving back in Bethel, Sister Hudgings made copies of this letter of instructions for us. The Tabernacle was sold, if my memory serves me aright, for only $16,000. Later Bethel was sold to the government and all arrangements made except the transfer of cash, when the armistice was signed; but providentially the sale of Bethel was never accomplished.
  
  
  
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  TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!

  cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .

  the first man is william f. hudgings.

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  TheOldHippie

  How come you have never heard of them? Hudgings is mentioned in the JW history book, page 73:

  After a lengthy discussion, W. F. Hudgings, a director of the Peoples Pulpit Association, read to the audience a letter from Brother Rutherford. In it he sent love and greetings to those assembled. “Satan’s chief weapons are PRIDE, AMBITION and FEAR,” he warned. Showing a desire to submit to Jehovah’s will, he even humbly suggested suitable men in the event that the shareholders should decide to elect new officers for the Society.
  
  
  
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  Why are some that post here JW apologists?

  by ctrwtf in

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  my rant tonight is against the quasi religious apologists that post on this board.

  those who at once rail against the jw's then later talk about how "orderly" and "neat" the witnesses are at their conventions.

  those who site the benefits of bloodless surgery to some who have the luxury and time to actually make an educated choice, while ignoring the tens of thousands who've died because they happen to be in an accident or succumb to a disease for which there is no other treatment.. i understand the power of cognitive dissonance.

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  "Why are some that post here JW apologists?"

  Just about the strangest question I have ever seen. Maybe my memory does not serve me well any more, but wasn't this supposed to be a discussion board? And then you ask why someone has opinions different from those of the others? A discussion board without discussion, critisism of those having certain opinions not because of the opinions but because they utter them here - you seem to fit neatly into exactly the sort of behaviour you are critizising others for having.
  
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  Belgium Bethel on sale...

  by sp74bb in

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  according to our sources belgium bethel will be very soon closed and the building sold.... selters germany bethel will take care of this area....

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  TheOldHippie

  
  I really don’t see the big problem in the closing of the branch offices. The data revolution has simplified so much that the same amount of people as earlier are not required any more. You can’t have a Bethel where half the staff is cutting the hair of the other half, and why is it that grown ups can’t prepare their own breakfast or make their own beds? The things I do at work today required tens of people a couple of decades ago. Sentimentality would ask for a branch close to where you live - but the WT never was much into sentimentality.
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  From yesterday WT, don't have kids and if you do then don't see them often nor the grandkids either

  by purrpurr in

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  unbelievable paragraph in yesterday's watchtower was "encouraging" the sheep to not have kids.

  most of their growth comes from the born ins and they are still on about not having kids?.

  then it went on to "encourage" those that do have kids or grandkids not to spend to much time with them and instead to spend their time serving kingdom interests!.

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  "Older ones too may be sacrificing the time they could otherwise spend with their children and grandchildren in order to work on theocratic construction projects" - wasn't swallowed unnoticed, I assure you.

  Isn't it strange, Listener, how one often sees these contradictory statements?
  
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  Will Bro. Rogers be DF'd posthumously for drug addiction?

  by ShirleyW in

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  some have been df'd for suspicion of smoking cigarettes, yet bro.

  rogers death is because of an addiction, fentanyl is what they are saying is the drug that did him in which was reported on the news as being more potent than heroine.

  why is it that some nosy sister can report you because someone who looked like you was in the parking lot the same time as she was, yet bro.

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  TheOldHippie

  Overdose of pain killer done mistakenly - I don't see any problem. And neither would I in any person suffering from severe pain and accidentally administering a too high dosis.
  
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  How to shake up Jdubs...

  by Rather Be the Hammer in

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  2. beliefs

  i didn't attend the meeting last night, but my in husband came home and was quite shocked because there was a letter announcing that there will be no wt-library cd-rom any more, and..... no more calendar.. he said there was a lot of talking and noise when that was announced.. i didn't expect the calender to go, by the way.

  and my husband sounded really concerned, talking about how society is cutting down.

  i love it when he says with a tone of surprise in his voice: 'you were right, now they want us to do everyting digital, and throw out the printed stuff.

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  TheOldHippie

  "According to thier last report the jws are loosing 250k per year that's a lot of People"

  I think you must have done some serious misreading of the YB. The number is increasing.
  
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  You wear tight pants and you will be in trouble

  by wannaexit in

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  i was reading in another forum, that a letter to the elders instructed them to speak to anybody who persists in wearing tight pants.

  if changes don't happen then the instructions are to disqualify him from being a publisher but it won't be announced to the congregation.

  i am am curious to see if this letter will surface.

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  TheOldHippie

  "to disqualify him from being a publisher"

  That was strange. It was always stressed that being a publisher is required, is a right, that as a JW you both have the right to and the obligation to preach. I remember it stated at a JC that we had absolutely no right to deny a person the right to preach. He could be told to better preach in a specific area or to avoid an area because of Things that had happened - but not to stop preaching. The only way to stop a person from preaching is to df him.

  If you are disqualified from preaching - you by definition is no JW. Strange.