i got a call today from bruce baker (venice's daddy) telling me he was going to be on the news tonight.
he wanted me to tape the interview.
my vcr hasn't been able to tape anything since the last time i kicked it so it's unplugged with a new dvd player in it's place.
Hey Dave
I can't add anything to what you've already said, you summed up the illogic of the JW thinking beautifully!
So, for any of you dip shit JW"s who watched that news cast and shook your head and said to your little kids 'see what happened to people when they turn their back on Jehovah" I'm here to tell you to wake the hell up. It's not the turning your back on your stupid ass mythical god, it the believing in the crap you teach in the first place.You tell 'em Dave!
Tracy
this is my first post on this board even though i have been lurking for a looong time.... .
i have just being told that the judicial committee has decided to disfellowship me and that i have a week to appeal if i decide to do so.
the reason: "apostasy".
Email!
I remember you, you used to come into chat a while ago. I'm so sorry to hear you're being DF'ed. I know with your wife still a Witness that's going to cause some problems.
I hope it turns out for you like it has for many of us...an unexpected path to freedom. Hang in there, and don't forget to come here for all the support you'll need.
Tracy
one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?
) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.
i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.
My point is simply, if you don't like it here, why do you stay?Tracy
who looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?
are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?
also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.
Thanks Dannybear
It was difficult to put all of my feelings into words, but like I said, it was very liberating. And I meant every word of it.
Garybuss, I liked your reply also. You put it very succintly, if they suffer for their own choices, is that some else's fault? We cannot control their choices...we can only control what we do about them.
Tracy
one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?
) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.
i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.
Trauma,
I was referring to the fact that, based on some of your comments here, but most especially elsewhere you have a lot of complaints about Simon and the way he runs this board. My comment regarding you had nothing to do with the Silentlambs issue. My point is simply, if you don't like it here, why do you stay?
Tracy
one of the few unfounded (i think) accusations that have been thrown at me by certain people is that i have caused 'untold damage' to the silentambs cause.. i don't know quite what this is supposed to mean or what i'm suppoed to have done or whether it is anything more than just 'mud' flung by people who find it easier to criticise rather than actually do anything.. over the last year (is it?
) i've been happy to promote the silentlambs cause and have hosted links to bills site and vidoes / sound files of tv programmes, radio reports, photo's of the march etc... as well as providing a place for people to meet and arrange things.
i hope it has been useful and helpful to at least some people.. if i have inadventantly held things up in some way then i unreservedly and wholeheartedly apologise.. all i can say is, i do my best and may not always get things right.
No you're not.
If Trauma Hound, or Bitter Mango or anyone else doesn't like it here....why do they stay? Or keep coming back? Can't figure it out.
Tracy
who looks after the welfare of ageing witness parents who have disfellowshipped children?
are these df'd children (actually, some of these df'd children are in their 60's) meant to ignore being ignored and then care physically for their non speaking parents?
also, can df'ing your own children lead to witness parents suffering illness or even death as a result?.
Speaking for myself only (of course),
I have informed my parents that I never want to hear from them again.....period.
I told my mother if my dad gets sick, don't call me. If he dies, don't call me. Tell dad the same regarding you. In other words, don't contact me and I will do the same with you. I will not invite you to my kids weddings, nor send birth announcements for their children, I will no longer send you photos of all of us so that you can pretend you are a part of our lives.
I did add one caveat...I told her if she ever quit being a JW she could call me. Otherwise, I hope she lives a happy life and I intend to do the same. For me, it was closure that was needed. She is dead to me anyway, as I am to her...but it's like going on living with a corpse in your house without ever having the funeral and saying goodbye....so that's what I did.
I'm not recommending this for anyone else...but it was something that worked for me. You'd have to know all our history to understand....but I actually felt great after putting that in writing and sending it to them. I feel free.
Tracy
i am sitting here being thankful for my greatest gifts that i have, my two daughters.
today my youngest called and wanted to come by for dinner and wanted to know what we wanted for dinner.
she had an hour and 1/2 off from her work at the doctors office and wanted to visit for a while.
Awwwww Ken
I love reading your posts about your family, and your relationship with your daughters. I feel I have that kind of relationship with my boys, they're only 16 & 17....but I greatly look forward to the growing friendship we have, and I can't wait to hold their babies in my arms some day....not in the near future you understand but someday.
Tracy
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i was so upset yesterday, but today i put it all in perspective.
i had to call my ex-husband to take care of the final divorce crap, and my ex-mother in law answers and i politly say who is calling and ask her how she is and i couldn't belive her reaction, she was pissed off and ask what i wanted, i asked my ex what her problem was and he said " well she is reallly upset because it's going around that you held a press confrence in front of the kh and that you were in new york protesting", well i couldn't help myself so i told him " it's amazing how she will shake the hand of the man who molested me for so many years, yet i stand in front of a kh and say they need to change there policys and she treats me as if i'm the evil one".. anyway i was really upset and i started thinking i in a way am happy i called and all this was said because now i know it is getting to them, they are hearing it, not liking it but forced to hear it, i give my props to all out there for getting the message out, it's making a diffrence....whoo hooooooo
You go Erica!
What is it you learn in psych 101? If something makes you angry, you should examine it...there's a reason you're reacting so strongly. Your ex mother in law was angry because it makes her face things she doesn't want to face.
Hey, don't look at me....I never took psych 101.
Tracy
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he's going to be a grandad!, .
congratulations eman.
CONGRATULATIONS MIKE!
It couldn't happen to a nicer guy...even if you are English.
to you and HL
Tracy
