Posts by thinker

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Who really is the FDS?!?!?!?!?

by LDH in

jw
friends

hey all, hope you're having a great year so far.. before witnet was closed down, there was an interesting discussion regarding the fds and their failed prophecies.

i asked a question, but unfortunately there wasn't enought time to get everyone's view.. so i'll rephrase my posts, and wait to hear from y'all.. if we are so quick to say that the fds is a false prophet because of some failed prophecies (even tho they say they don't prophecy, we all know better) then how would you explain the bible book of jonah?.

a faithful prophet, jonah, followed (after much trial and tribulation to himself) jehovah's command to declare destruction on the city of nineveh.

thinker

I believe larc has it right. The story about the FDS is an illustration, nothing more. In Matt. 24:36 and Matt. 24:42 Jesus clearly states that no man will know when the Lord is coming. Then you read about the FDS in Matt. 24:45-51. Jesus then follows up with the MAIN point (no one will know the day and hour of the Lords return) in Matt. 25:13.
The WTBTS has completely twisted the verses to give them authority over others (more like the illustration of the evil slave IMHO).
THE MAIN POINT: NO MAN WILL KNOW, NOT ANGELS OF HEAVEN, NOT JESUS. ONLY THE FATHER (Matt. 24:36).
For the Society to take a small part of this chapter and start saying they know when the Lord will return is completely opposite of what Jesus was try to teach!

thinker

116

Confessing

by STRUGGLE in

jw
friends

hello, i was reading judical com.

was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

thinker

Struggle,
I tried to post earlier today and there was too much traffic. Just wanted to let you know we have been thinking and worrying about you a lot lately.
Hope everything you truly wish for happens on Tuesday so that you can move on with your life.
Please keep us posted on what is happening. And know that we wish the very best for you.
Remember any heartache does get better with time.
And everything Redhorse Woman said are exactly my thoughts too.
Love,
Thinkers Wife

116

Confessing

by STRUGGLE in

jw
friends

hello, i was reading judical com.

was really suprise to find out how some of jw's feel.

some have, like the single mom, have such a negative experience with them.

thinker

Hi Struggle,
Thought you might like some wise words.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll,
I am the master of my fate,
I am the captain of my soul.

from "Invictus" by W.E. Henley

thinker

11

need help re 607 date

by hosebracket in

jw
friends

i am new to this.. i have a problem.

someone on my ministry asked me about the date that we hold so dear....607 bce and asked me to prove it to them.

this would not be a problem i thought as the f&ds would have solid basis for using such a date.

thinker

Click on "Active Topics" at top, right of this page.
Then go to "page 2" of the active topices page.(bottom of page)
Look for "1914?..."

thinker

8

JW Charged with Molesting

by JAVA in

an interesting article from the ap:.

the associated press.

nashua, n.h. (ap) - a man charged with molesting three girls argues that meetings where he discussed the accusations with his jehovah's witness elders were confidential and can't be used as evidence.. gregory blackstock, 45, of hollis, faces eight counts of rape, punishable by up to 20 years in prison.

thinker

From a previous post from Venice:

"A spokesman at the church's headquarters in New York said there is no prohibition or discouragement in going to legal authorities in the event of child abuse."

J.R. Brown, public affairs director for Jehovah's Witnesses at the church's headquarters in Brooklyn, N.Y., said in a statement that the members of the faith "abhor all forms of wickedness, including child abuse.’’

"If child abuse becomes known to our church elders, they strictly comply with applicable child abuse reporting laws. We also encourage the wrongdoers to do everything they can to set the matter straight with the authorities. Furthermore, we do not prohibit or discourage the victim or the victim's parents from reporting child abuse to the authorities even if the alleged perpetrator is one of Jehovah's Witnesses."

Seems to me the WTBTS position is pretty clear on this issue. There is no confidentiality.
Would be interesting to see how it turns out.

thinker

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Starting a joke thread - c'mon, join in!

by waiting in

henry and jane were much in love with each other, despite many differences, including their religions.

jane was a devout christian, henry believed strongly in reincarnation.

but the husband & wife both agreed on one thing - if either of them died - the other was to go to a spirit medium within one week so that their spirits could commune and assure the surviving spouse of their mutual love.. henry died tragically.

thinker

A not-too-bright man brings his dead dog to a vet and says "Doc, can you find out whats wrong with my dog?". The vet checks for a pulse and say's "I'm sorry, he's dead." The man says, "I'd like a second opinion!" So the vet brings a cat and a black Lab. in from the other room. The cat sniffs the dead dog and meows. The the Lab. smells the dead dog and goes "woof". The vet says, "That will be $300."
The man shouts "$300 !!, Just to tell me my dog is dead?!?! That's outragious!"
The vet replies "Normally, it's only $20, but that was before the cat scan and lab work."

11

need help re 607 date

by hosebracket in

jw
friends

i am new to this.. i have a problem.

someone on my ministry asked me about the date that we hold so dear....607 bce and asked me to prove it to them.

this would not be a problem i thought as the f&ds would have solid basis for using such a date.

thinker

Welcome Horsebracket,
This is a sticky question as I just recently found out. You may want to go to the folder, see why 1914 is wrong. There is some very interesting information that my husband posted dealing with the year 607. You will find it interesting to say the least.
Thinkers Wife

99

Who really is the FDS?!?!?!?!?

by LDH in

jw
friends

hey all, hope you're having a great year so far.. before witnet was closed down, there was an interesting discussion regarding the fds and their failed prophecies.

i asked a question, but unfortunately there wasn't enought time to get everyone's view.. so i'll rephrase my posts, and wait to hear from y'all.. if we are so quick to say that the fds is a false prophet because of some failed prophecies (even tho they say they don't prophecy, we all know better) then how would you explain the bible book of jonah?.

a faithful prophet, jonah, followed (after much trial and tribulation to himself) jehovah's command to declare destruction on the city of nineveh.

thinker

Zazz,
Anytime you feel the need to commune in the mountains you just come on and visit Thinker and I we would love to have you. If you wish we'll even let you bring Larc. That would give me some personal one on one with him to get him straightened out.

Edited by - thinker on 6 January 2001 16:45:25

99

Who really is the FDS?!?!?!?!?

by LDH in

jw
friends

hey all, hope you're having a great year so far.. before witnet was closed down, there was an interesting discussion regarding the fds and their failed prophecies.

i asked a question, but unfortunately there wasn't enought time to get everyone's view.. so i'll rephrase my posts, and wait to hear from y'all.. if we are so quick to say that the fds is a false prophet because of some failed prophecies (even tho they say they don't prophecy, we all know better) then how would you explain the bible book of jonah?.

a faithful prophet, jonah, followed (after much trial and tribulation to himself) jehovah's command to declare destruction on the city of nineveh.

thinker

Welcome Trevor,
I must agree with you whole heartedly. This too is difficult for me to understand. Lately we have been bombarded with offers to come to other churches. I am not interested in organized religion. I think it is wonderful to be free and to have the time to examine our own inner thoughts and needs.
Everyones needs are different, hence, something different appeals to everyone. But it is hard to imagine becoming involved with another dogma and set of rules and standards.
I for one do not need that.
Venice,
Very interesting quotes. Where did you find them? In the above mentioned site?
Thinkers Wife

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Hey Simon

by Seven in

look!!

over 10,000 posts.. great place to meet and exchange ideas.

thanks for a job well done.. seven

thinker

Simon,
This site has been a lifesaver for me. Came just at the right time. I am so glad my husband found it.
All of you are in my thoughts every day!
Thinkers Wife