Posts by prologos

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JWs have more good points than bad

by lsw1961 in

1) many who were on the destructive path have been transformed by their teachings (this includes me who was once vicious, and presumptuous and atheistic).

2) equal monthly pay to all members of the bethel community regardless of whether they are bc members or sweepers.

this is something that still remains as an unattainable dream for the world.

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lsw1961 welcome ! --do I hear a slavic accent? have you lived through the Stalin years? working in a state-owned enterprise? belonged to the pioneers? everybody is "tovarich", but some are more "rich" than others? like in bethel. equal in the race to the bottom? flying first class?

To quote a source you should be familiar with: "Religion is opium for the people", and this "bible -based" religion is no exception. No doubt opiates are painkillers, a real benefit, and withdrawal can be shattering, but has to done to face and enjoy reality, better sooner than later.

Keep posting and reading here and the sites mentioned above. and see not only the good but the better. karashov ++

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What actually DID you learn?

by punkofnice in

my jw friends that still speak to me, tell me that they love the meetings because of the things they learn.. i wonder what they think they're learning?

it an avenue that always perplexes me because their replies are just so wishy washy or i get a blank stare when i ask.. what's you r experience?.

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public speaking. how to make a brilliant defense of an untenable proposition. , bible "truth"

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This week is water weak in watch tower land

by prologos in

tuesday, midweek.

: imitation faith book "study".

noah's ark floating above mt.

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tuesday, midweek.: Imitation Faith book "study". Noah's ark floating above Mt. Everest, after 200 meters per day rains. or perhaps Noah's strong faith transported Everest and all mountains into the Marianas trench; it is possible according to Math 21:21, and the ark just lifted only so so, and Noah did not shed a tear as he waved his mother, relatives goodby at the pier.

Then the bible reading: How long does it take for God to realize his mistake and repent, relent? the bible answer? 2-3 days., because he regretted to have killed so many over David's counting publishers, -erhem- member totals .

Sunday's wt. "study" standing firm in the faith and on water. really. Jesus, Peter walking on water, not ice, water! what?

If your faith is as good and solid as these stories-- deepest sympathies. wt water week.

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Retirement Planning for ex-JW's

by Simon in

this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.

it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.

if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.

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I gave examples of peer2peer lending which can achieve 6% on cash deposits. Stock market investments should hopefully earn more Simon yeah, If you do not have to cash out your energy stock when oil prices are down.

A 6% return is doable, in real estate related papers. I know of a $ 70 000.- account that has given the mandatory senior payout of 7000,- per year for a decade, and has still 50 000 in the balance. money is magnetic, it attract money.

The best retirement advice imo: get a government job, municipal, federal, state, province. invest your disposable income in real estate; buy and rent out, when you sell,-- you hold the mortgage, double your selling income. If you are the money person, do not get divorced.

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Retirement Planning for ex-JW's

by Simon in

this is something i think about a lot, possibly because i'm just getting older.

it seems that not only should i finally one day decide what i want to do with my life, but i should also be planning for retirement.. hands up everyone who feels their future has been royally screwed by the wts experience?.

if you were a good jw and followed the wts advice you could well be finding yourself facing middle or even old age without much or anything put aside in retirement savings.

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Save $1,000 a month for 25 years and get 7% returns and you will have nearly $1m to retire on over and above any state provisions you may be entitled to. Simon.

Many savers can not reach that goal of 7% not when the prime is .5 % and the banks give mortgages under 3%. Too much saving might cost you in reduced government guaranteed old age supplements. Move to a country with publicly financed health care. apply to be a refugee.

Be wary of mutual funds, charging 2% per year, In 25 years it will eat away half your investments, compounded.

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Jeb Bush would kill a baby !

by Simon in

ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.

apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".

but still wtf?

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killing babies seems to be a favoured passe - time of some in power. Solomon was ready to do it, greatly increasing the fear he instilled in his subjects. The angel at passover time certainly showed his power that way. and then the camps, the cities. not just Sodom either.

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Holy Grail of Free Energy Might be Possible

by cofty in

every chloroplast in every green leaf on planet earth is wonderfully efficient at absorbing energy from the sun.

in combination with a complex protein enzyme h2o molecules are gently eased apart and combined with co2 to produce energy and oxygen.. a synthetic version of this process would make unlimited, clean cheap energy possible but it has so-far eluded chemical engineers.

until now..... researchers at florida state university have discovered a method of using manganese oxide also known as birnessite to capture sunlight and then use that solar energy to create an oxidation reaction read more....

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from the stored energy in plants we can ferment, distill alcohol, so, are there any life enhancing substances in the pipe line from this process, and is it pretty like plants? or can the plants that do this be made pretty like plants?

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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.

by Amelia Ashton in

this was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.

i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!

a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.

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kookie Wish some legal would look into elders escorting known criminal pedophiles out in field service like they are the police, I mean if they believe they are repentant and allowed to witness why escort them in case.

The elders always have the option to assign the questionable and troublemakers to the "hall group" and assign the children to the safest homes around. . but these assignments would make the leadership liable, if the householder too lost control or even were unaware of the situations. should have never happened in spiritual paradise.

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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.

by Amelia Ashton in

this was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.

i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!

a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.

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In some third world countries, all meetings were held on one afternoon in sequence, publishers really could not afford the time and expenses to come 3 times a week. but in other places, the book study was a great occasion to get out, you were already bathed and dressed up, so why not make a few calls, even H2H coming and going? and then it was always fun to see the conductor sweating by questions, comments. It forced all the "servants," elders to really be prepared, whereas now with only one "conductor" and 30 second comments, the heat has been turned off. less spiritual thinking, interaction. The same with the cancelled circuit Overseers extra day, the 8 day conventions , the 2 day circuit meetings. isolate, isolate ;isolate. divide and conquer.

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