Posts by prologos

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-22-2015 WT Study (God Loves us?)

by blondie in

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blondies highlights from the 11-22-2015 wt study (september 15, 2015) (jehovah love us).

excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .

bible translations www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible .

prologos

thank you for the reminder. the message from the wt: do not expect much from us either, ruling with the greater invisible David.

PP14 David disciplined for adultery and murder…Under the law adulterers and murderers were to be put to death…no exceptions no showing mercy get out of death clause; unless you are the king of Israel. Uriah died, the illegitimate child died, sons of David died, and 70,000 innocent people died for David’s sins.

Wt comment: Jehovah handled the case himself, not allowing humans to judge the affair. yeah, killing 70 000+ innocents, when removing 2 guilty would have done. so, the moral: jws,--- look forward to more of the same.

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New Generation Understanding

by momzcrazy in

hello everyone, i am new here and newly freed from the snare of wtbs.

my sister, also newly freed, said our mom told her at the annual meeting there was a new "understanding" on the generation confusion.

it is now the annointed that will not pass away.. has anyone else heard this?

prologos

yes some on GB now in 50s - so if they live as long as Franz or Barber etc - the possible date for Armageddon has been moved forward 40 years - past my life time. jwexelder.

or if one takes the example of George Gangas the anointed two group overlappers will reach past 2075. What an appropriate failed centennial celebration. to look forward too for our grand-grand -children.

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Sheep and the Goats - The Light Gets Brighter

by nmthinker in

perhaps some of you remember a new understanding of the sheep and the goats in the epic march 2015 wt study edition - specifically the article "loyally supporting christ's brothers".. while this article was studied many months ago, it was instrumental in helping me wake up.

during my study of the 2015 article i recalled that we had just revised our understanding of the sheep and the goats a few years ago and this caused me to research the real progression of the jw understanding of this parable.

i put the results of my research in an excel spreadsheet.. .

prologos

If you give time, labor, green handshake toward the wt G,O,D., you could not possibly become a sheep at the right hand, because you know what you do when you are doing it, even the tax year. because the sheep ask : "when did we feed, visited--

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What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

by Dunedain in

i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

prologos

Every crackpot cult story engenders questions like that around their core scare theme -- like the Catholic's:

"What was God doing before creating the world?: "preparing a place for people that ask questions like that: --a very hot place."

wt demons before 1914? populating the minds of gullible wt readers. creating self-induced scares.

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Which current GB members are part of the "overlapping generation"?

by Splash in

thoughts triggered from a comment cappytan made on a different thread:.

cappytan the newest guy in the gang, mark sanderson, is no exception [to being a gb helper at some point].

- w2013 7/15 p.26 a new member of the governing body"in september 2010, [mark sanderson] was invited to return to the united states, where he served as a helper to the service committee of the governing body.".

prologos

all of the current GB are part of the "overlapping generation"

anybody baptized in the 90s can be overlapping, so hunker down for a long wait past 2075 . even a "last" day has a thousand years.

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What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

by Dunedain in

i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

prologos

"--Before creation of matter started, there was no time--", it should read "There was no movement through time." Even now, under the right condition that one way movement can come to a halt for you, while time keeps existing as a dimension just as before and into the future. According to wt, the angels applauded during the 13.8 billion years, that space, energy, matter accelerated (time^2). before that, blinking?

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I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

prologos

very, very touched.

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What were Satan and his demons "doing" up in heaven, before being "cast down" in 1914?

by Dunedain in

i was just thinking about how the wts has been spouting off for years that satan and his demons were cast down to the vicinity of the earth in 1914, but really, when you think about it, what was the difference before 1914 or after 1914?.

its not like satan and his demons did not have access to the earth.

satan and his demons always were messing with earth.

prologos

It explains the strides in aviation, the space programs since 1914. If the Earth and it's vicinity is literal, the heavens must be too. so: Pleiades, here we come, restart " the accusing of our brothers day and night."

Everything Satan ever did was authorized by Jehovah, after all, he, and his dematerialized demons listened obediently not to kill Job, just his kids.

let's ask the astronomers: is there anything special about the sphere 100 light years around the Earth? it is demon free! and farther, past 6666** light years to infinity too, demon free! all these giant dinosaurs, mass extinction, demon free.

*** assuming that Satan harboured, internalized, dedicated his rebellion for 666 years before the snake talked.

It is amazing what you can cull from the cult.

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All must be ready to obey...

by Half banana in

in view of the recent financial pressures being spun as opportunities to hasten armageddon, i think we should look again at the meaning behind their cultic warning of "all must be ready to obey intructions, whether appearing sound or not".

by dripping these creepy injunctions into the watchtower study and therefore into the conditioned and receptive mind of the jw, how long will it be before they are able to decree something like this?......

jw tv broadcast july 2017.

prologos

If the "new light" eventually says all JW's can now drink the wine during the memorial. Run like hell!!!

or like all the secret communion partakers, bring your own .

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Are there any ex-missionaries here??

by fulano in

i have been a missionary in the dominican republic for almost 10 years and i was wondering if there were any ex-missionaries on this forum.. i am back in my country now for 3 years and totally inactive.. what i noticed in those missionary-years was the lack of spiritual interest among the missionaries.. discussions were about rooms, cars and greater responsibilities, the bad territory.

and the local c.o.s and d.os.. was this only in the dr or are there other experiences??.

ere other experiences?

prologos

very interesting read. If you were assigned far away, with no wealth behind you, and then locally assigned into oblivion, you had the true wt wt experience. The likes of E.B. White would shine nevertheless.