Mephis: "--Or is he not irrelevant to all intents and purposes in your life? Other than a theoretical construct --" well for me, the creator is not irrelevant, because of perceived present inaction, because I am very firmly rooted in the results of the creation/beginning event. I am obsessed with creating things, on a primitive level, but also touching and the cosmic; - emulating all my parents all the way back to where it matters. I am very encouraged by the glimpses into the pre-big bang "outside our universe" that science/math offers. It certainly is a broader, richer worldview, lifestyle now, than that I experienced in my 5 decades long foray into the "spiritual"world of watchtower activity & study.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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WT loses sextuplets court case
by belbab in.
toronto globe and mail.. parents of sextuplets given transfusions lose court fight.. http://www.theglobeandmail.com:80/servlet/story/rtgam.20080613.wsextuplets13/bnstory/national/home?cid=al_gam_mostview.
belbab.
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woj: "We don't say "aboot"Never quite understood that one. --That rendering seems to come from Robert MacNeil, of " McNeal Lehrer Report" news hour on NPR USA, who picked up his various accents even as far away as London, on his assignments.
Hope the wt comes up with saner policies on medical procedures, without being prompted by the courts.
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Woman rips off her husband's testicles with bare hands...
by Elsewhere inhttp://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=local&id=4183089&ft=printinjured husband talks to action news.
tioga-nicetown - may 17, 2006 - a philadelphia man is recovering from an attack, allegedly at the hands of his wife.
the assault on his private parts has become public knowledge.
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in her bare hands, That gives a new meaning to the expression "the lady has balls" ! , bare hands too, she took her gloves off? -
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Mephis: :"--laws which are instead invented by humans --" well, The laws by which nature works are embodied in the universe and it's movements, It is the human genius that is able to express them in Mathematics, a logic that allows us to extrapolate into further understanding of the workings of the universe. It probably can be said that these are among the eternal truth, because some are almost self evident like the inverse square radiation/ gravity laws, inverse fourth power cooling law, Pie, --The source of other constants are still being investigated, the mass/ gravity mystery, Higgs, gravitons, space tensioning. so.
to me, the deist creator is as useless as my parents. I would not be here without them, and they not without nature and it's possible maker, even if he appears to be fully finished with his work, just as my parents are with my pro-creation event. and I am not quoting Nietzsche here.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Me phis: "--They're only laws if they work all the time, and God playing about with them kind of messes with that.
Who says he/she is messing with the laws? The bible says so? It is all discredited, just exaggerated stories. The genius of creation/ nature is that the laws do not have to be tinkerd with to work, even for life. The universe is on autopilot, it appears.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Cofty's Quote: Not only can something arise from nothing, but most often the laws of physics require that to occur. - [ Professor] Lawrence Krauss .
Einstein's joking question " did the Lord have any choice in the --- Laws he made?" as mentioned before:
Laws , or their embodiments, definitions, defining equations do not arise by themselves. There were no modern laws, whether they are considered asinine or not, in our civilisations. Laws are a product of intelligence, and to a lesser degree is their discovery. Well functioning laws are a sign of great intelligence imho.
There are many examples where events, entities, time, energy, laws are seriously considered as possibilities outside our own discernable universe. Our Columbus instincts will not rest.
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All lies are untruth. But not all untruths are lies.
by aintenoughwiskey inif you speak an untruth that you believe to be true, is it a lie?
does it become a lie when you discover and then fail to admit, or obscure the untruth?
i would like to be a fly on the wall when the gb makes new doctrine.
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Untruth are lies, when the speaker of them knows, or has any doubts, that what she/he spoke do not reflect the facts. -
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Ruby 456: "--this understanding denies nothingness too. " true", absolute nothingness is only a philosophical term. it does not exist in reality, according to all these writers. -
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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FaC: snow globe sitting on my bookshelf. yeah, but a snow globe that is automatically being tilted all the time by one of those devices that animate the other desk mobiles, with a battery that seems to be recharged remotely. because the white stuff keeps flying . Young ones are still born. -
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No historical evidence for bronze age men living to 500yrs old?
by purrpurr inthe bible tells us that noah etc lived to 500yrs old as did many other characters who lived apparently to incredible years.. yet archaeological research tells us from looking at skeletons that have been dug up that the average lifespan was very short.
if a man got to the age of 50 they would have considered that quite an achievement.
when i was in i always wondered about this?
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pp: "--Did they have an extra long childhood? longer Childhood, some did not have children until 120. Childhood, that or self control, perfect contraception bronze-stile.