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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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S: "--Without gravity, there is no time--" EoM: "--he was always there since time didn't exist prior. --"
How can you have "always", every time, continuously, continually without there actually being a dimension to have those occurrences in? And how can you have no time without gravity when the equations of relativity state the opposite: the more gravity, the less time, maximum gravity= no time at all, absence of gravity= full flow of [through] time?
better you-all substitute "time" for movement through time to make it work. for we live in a working, worked universe, that started with raising time to the second power. aka acceleration, "inflation" even.
Some of you want to give the creator nothing. I at least try to give him time.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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F: "assumes" -- or better yet presumes? If somehow the big bang energy imbalance was triggered, there had to be acceleration, movement through time squared, You can not have movement through time unless it is there in the first place. or? Am I presumptuous?
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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F Get your own NOTHING!!!!" That is a tall order, after all, we are not creators, bu converters, special user of Energy. Particularly making a nothing (no THING) that would serve to make the universe.
The Question " what was there BEFORE the Big Bang?" implies though, that there was time. there was no thing, but there was time. Is it time to accept that?
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Hearts going out to those in the Fort Mac area
by Dagney in
1. jw
2. friends
a few posters on here live in fort mcmurray, canada where there is a devastating fire.

one at least has lost her home and beloved dog.

thinking of you all.
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I hope nobody has suffered burns, was asphyxiated. Is not the Fort an oil town? with crude worldwide in a fire sale, a double whammy, an internal Canadian refugee crisis, Charity starts at home.
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Bible Reading Assignment This Week is About THE LEVIATHAN
by xjwsrock in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a brother went on stage and read .

job 41:1-26. jehovah is straight up talking to job about a fire-breathing dragon in this passage.

it was surreal to hear this read without as much as a raised eyebrow in the audience.. here it is: (mind you this is almighty god talking one-on-one with job).
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smoke is involved.: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf-Bhs_HAOA Yjis passage in Job, ranks of course with the talking snake, walking on water and other magic stuff, so consider that all the upper echelon in wt believe this and if they don't want you to believe this. as they said at IBM: Thimk!
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Understanding The Bible ... The "Linchpin" Effect
by Littleleslie in
1. watchtower
2. bible
understanding the holy bible.. .

after many years of study of scripture, our bible study group has discovered something very important that needs to be realized or absorbed, before one can come to a correct understanding of the bible.

we call it, the "linchpin" effect... .
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Littleleslie, If he bible had this "one author", should it not be like Rubik's Cube, having some kind of central Lynch-pin, but always given the same result when handled right? a Pin with a Spin?
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Bible Reading Assignment This Week is About THE LEVIATHAN
by xjwsrock in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a brother went on stage and read .

job 41:1-26. jehovah is straight up talking to job about a fire-breathing dragon in this passage.

it was surreal to hear this read without as much as a raised eyebrow in the audience.. here it is: (mind you this is almighty god talking one-on-one with job).
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Puff the magic dragon lives by the sea?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lmAc3LKWM
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Bible Reading Assignment This Week is About THE LEVIATHAN
by xjwsrock in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
a brother went on stage and read .

job 41:1-26. jehovah is straight up talking to job about a fire-breathing dragon in this passage.

it was surreal to hear this read without as much as a raised eyebrow in the audience.. here it is: (mind you this is almighty god talking one-on-one with job).
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levity about the leviathan. Too bad brothers are not allowed to comment on the bible reading anymore, then it really would be funny!.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Fisherman: "--and Gd tells him: "Get your own dirt!" " that is very telling, and teaching humour. That is why I consider discussions about evolution immaterial to the big question of initial creation. Evolution is playing with "god's" dirt, or play dough. but how this big, energetic structure we live in, started expanding, and moving through time. wow I would like to have been there in person, and of course i was there, but only in energy.
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What was there before the Big Bang?
by Brokeback Watchtower in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpuhj98vjoa.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hik8hj0_t9q.
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Fisherman: " Empty space is something to put things in. It is not known if ES existed before the bb. I think that it did not exist--" very good thoughts in connection with this theme.
There has to be a distinction between intergalactical space, defined in three directions and its point of movement through time, and the void that existed before the beginning bb. Perhaps mass and Energy generate the space and it's field forces as it expands? or is space just an invisible 3 dimensional framework where to hang matter into? Invisible like the kingdom of 1914? would the gravity be strongest just "outside" the universe, as it is strongest just outside the surface of the Earth? falling off in strength toward infinity and to zero at the center?
For these reasons I picture a kind of Ur-space, Ur-time that filled and always has, -eternity.