rotp: I overheard this on a job: " Honey, I dont care where you get your appetite, as long as you come home to eat." never mind Math 5;28.
prologos
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Honest Reponse needed
by His Excellency inattraction isn't the glue that holds couples together, and there have even been scientific polls and studies taken on this.
that initial attraction *typically* doesn't last more than a few months.
though attraction keeps you interested long enough to get to know someone and build a relationship with him/her.. but my question is this, how long does the attraction lasts in new couples, before they get bored with each-other?..
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new evil slave teaching, and its significance
by Fistandantilus infor a while, i thought why would they change this teaching?.
how would it help there agenda?.
then i read the thread, new ray franz?.
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they have linked the possible "evil slave " to the now narrowly defined FDS, wich is themselfs acting badly and in concert.
of course all this has to be questioned, since the evil slave is doing the beating, holding the stick and that has to be the local enforcers
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Why Do You Come To This Site?
by minimus ini believe that this site, jwn, serves many purposes.
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some are here almost, out of need.. others are here because they want to know the latest in watchtower world.. still others come here for the entertainment.. why do you frequent this place?
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discussions that need to be done and are not to be had at the KH or among jws in general.
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New light is Scientifically Accurate!! Here is the Proof!!
by DATA-DOG inwt 1981 12/1 pg.
28 paragraph 9.. .
" such adjustments might be said to follow a principle that has been said to govern the progress of scientific truth.
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accurate only in the science of probability. probabilities of the dice throw.
the 8 players probably took 2 dice: 6 sides marked, 1914, 1918, 1919, 1925, 1975, overlapping G,
the other 6 sides marked: Christ's presence, arrival, judgement, inspection, FDS appointment , great tribulation, Armageddon they actually had specially dice made, polygons to accomodate more dates, Christ coming, sitting down, standing up, anointing sealing----
rolled he dice and then voted on the currently " I like that" fashionable combinations. called mockingly new light. how disrespectful, this is serious.! scientific stuff. ---similarly with
science of sailing:
the sail boat tacking illustration. For the doctrinal course of the spirit directed organisation.
spirit like in Rhuha, or Pneuma, divine spirit having a direction.
If you are tacking, it shows you are going against the wind, that is supposed to direct you. the chart, map is wrong? the compass compromised by biassing magnets nearby? gps hacked by apostates?
such carelessness will ultimately land you on the shoals, the shallows, the Banks (sand), shipwrecked.
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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it is certainly true of the revived and now discarded again SPLIT GREAT TRIBULATION doctrine of the WT BtS, originally taught in the 50s.
In ist century Jerusalem, the G. Tribulation started, the army came, it retreated, the ist Gt was cut short in the middle, the Christians left for the mountains, then the G. tribulation restarted finally with the return of the army.
Proof that the 12 tribes, the great crowd were all one, fugitive mountain climbers all.
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The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013
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eden one, that is what I find puzzling too. it was in the 50s that we taught the wt doctrine of Gt at 1914, and that was dropped in favor of the "shorter than necessary,possible Gt" doctrine currently taught. why did the GB not admit to the current teaching? and
Doug's good work lets that glaring cover-up, weaseling stand out.
leapfrogging from really old light, over current ===sense (censored) to the new, july15 013 vintage, obscures the fact how many facets, variations of truth there really are, were, will be. could be.
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The Truth Changes: Watchtower of July 15, 2013
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it is true that they taught the 1914 start of the Gt and interruption in 1918- bigA prior to 70s, but changed that to "cut short" to "save flesh (of the anointed, chosen)"in length, terminating it early. up to now.
Did WT gloss over that current teaching to appear less confused than they really are?
That is why many new-bees were startlet and will be in July when they learn that were supposed to have believed, taught that discarded "GT cut- short- in the middle,"bit.
On the judging of the Sheep and Goats. reference is made in the refution of "preliminary stages" of such a judiscial process. whatever they be, the Lord at that point has the evidence at hand, fait accompli. where wt is wrong, its the nature of the brothers and the kind of deeds. and with the overlapping generations, how about all the dead during that "day of judgement" starting when? in the do-gooders of the millenia?
GB and writing, even legal should study this excellent DM work of research to see what they have wrought.
Ps: such excellent work allows us to see even more inconsistencies. keep it up.
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comments you will not hear, or just might, 30sec,-- bible reading Luke 18
by prologos inluke 18:9:-- [jesus] spoke to those who trusted themselfs that they were [right or] rightous and who considered the rest as nothing":, (as other sheep, lower aninmals only).
the context shows why it is so hard to convince a householder in the d2d work [or a dub of tatt] is in the prayer of the pharisee,.
luke 8:11,12 :"---god i thank you that i am not like the rest --[no, i am, you made me' better, the best]-or even as this tax collector.--".
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Luke 18:9:-- [Jesus] spoke to those who trusted themselfs that they were [RIGHT or] rightous and who considered the rest as nothing":, (as other sheep, lower aninmals only)
the context shows why it is so hard to convince a householder in the d2d work [or a dub of Tatt] is in the prayer of the Pharisee,
Luke 8:11,12 :"---God I thank you that I am not like the rest --[no, I am, you made me' better, the best]-or even as this tax collector.--"
Not only did the religious leader think he was good, he actually thaught that God wanted him to be so contemptuous, That he had made progress in that direction, but implied he would do better in the future.
"-- they will kill you and think they have done a service to God--" and God thinks so too. GOD APPROVES US.
so dont expect anything better today.
BSW: Jesus was allowed in the synagogue to do an analysis, a comment after his bible reading, not any more for JWmales,
the Jesus incident showed is is too risky for the establishment.
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Nearly all religions are just extortion rackets
by AntonyBaker inchrist was 50/50.
god lowered himself the most to become half man.
he saw himself in the girl.
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jgnat: find good religious people? yes we can. that is why I referred to spirituality as the higher asperations of people, and the seemingly universal presence of religious traits in humans.
of course, higher aspiration for some people might be wreaking havock in Boston for a few days. or
Leading millions around in error, in doom and gloom.
last time I was in church, they used their magnificent Grand for my kid's music exams, hopefully will again, all with grace.
The dormant/ex/jw struggle here is to find expression, nutrition for ones spritual self while dodging the obious and predicted abusers, be they just naturally that way or schemers.
in the extorsion rackets.
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Do You Ever Give Thought To A "Great Tribulation"?
by minimus inmy mother asked me if i was thinking about it and how bad it will be in the near future.
i said i didn't give it a thought.. is it something you ever think about, now?.
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Londo 111 : you are right, it happened in 1943 or thereabouts, London 111, Berlin, Warsaw, Stalingrad, Tokyo, Hiroshima--
and we have the promise: it will happen only to the BAD guys and gals. and their small children.
like all other promises----.
Not giving it thought. did that, can't hurt long, in the worst hits, I dont even know, remember how it happened, what hit me, how can a bigger, the biggest disaster be worse?