It appears to be a local needs/examining the records talk, probably adapted from an outline with local "data dog"ged in.
but I am not sure other than that this is a verified happening.
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Governing Body on a roll, claiming more territory in spiritual paradise?
by prologos inas reported from a recent co visit talk: .
the man with the inkhorn is picturing the governing body, who has the task of marking people for salvation ezek.
9:2,4.. it used to be christ's brothers, the remnant, the anointed, and you better help them* or be a goat as per the math:25 judgement.
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Governing Body on a roll, claiming more territory in spiritual paradise?
by prologos inas reported from a recent co visit talk: .
the man with the inkhorn is picturing the governing body, who has the task of marking people for salvation ezek.
9:2,4.. it used to be christ's brothers, the remnant, the anointed, and you better help them* or be a goat as per the math:25 judgement.
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As reported from a recent CO visit talk:
The man with the inkhorn is picturing the Governing Body, who has the task of marking people for salvation Ezek. 9:2,4.
It used to be christ's brothers, the remnant, the anointed, and you better help them* or be a goat as per the Math:25 judgement. * like help that kind old partaking sister finish her territory.
Now it is the Governing Body that needs help in the marking.
The GB was reported to be mentioned about 20 times, in as many minutes, tied to every aspect of the marking ministry.
a loving provision from the GB to grant the privilege to help in their MARKING WORK, on sundays, week nights and other new territories. 30hrs aux pioneering with the privilege to attend the full pioneer meeting.
then let the loving killing begin: verse 6: --virgin, little child and woman--
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 05-19-2013 WT Study (KNOW GOD)
by blondie incontinue to grow spiritually?.
continue growing spiritually.
we still need to grow in faith.
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re $s 9,10, tree illustration:
the tree illustrated on page 15 is the free-standing type, but some time after 1975 the WT BtS stated that these type of trees (read dubs) are useless, not giving good clear lumber. The org prefers close standing, straight, starving and reaching for "new light" types,-- like in tree farms.
that easily fall and are felled when exposed.
Trees are alive only in the cambrium under the bark. the inside can be burned or rotted out, and the tree keeps living so is it with Knowledge aquired by witnesses.
the core, inside, that was formed earlier by all that study of all those bogus books "let god be true--" ad nauseum--- is all rotten away now, and the strength of the whole thing is an illusion.
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Is time running out for the Watchtower ? or has it already passed its used by date
by smiddy injudging by the titles/themes of the talks , dramas ,new releases ,tracts,brochures , etc,.i dont think their was anything that would enthuse any witness to renewed activity.on the contrary i think it would demoralize you .their was nothing their to inspire a new convert let alone one who has been in for decades to keep on in service to this organization.
for arguments sake ,i was baptised in 1961 if i was still in , at this convention ,i would be asking ,when is the great tribulatin to begin?
who is the king of the north ?
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doing free construction labor is more satisfying than door 2door. you can see the results, have time for/with more than one work-mate, and some believe those buildings will survive the GT, or to the next major renovation. the pyramids the cathedrals in Europe were all build on the same principle.
pity the workers that did it to the detriment of their future, families.
If the spiritual bancrupty indicated by the latest new light is confirmed,
they are working for org financial survival, (money is for protection Ecc. 7:12)
quite similar to the millions that died to extend Hitler's life a few months.
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Why all the FORGIVENESS in the universe doesn't solve THE REAL problem.
by Terry ina wife who forgives her husband for beating her preserves the marriage.
but, forgiveness doesn't solve the real problem.. a victim of molestation who forgives the molester earns our awe eases their burden of anger, but, once again it doesn't solve the real problem.. forgiveness skirts the real problems.. .
for thousands of years mankind approached god for pardon for various sins, crimes, misdemeanors and--through rituals of sacrifice actually obtained forgiveness.. but, forgiveness didn't solve the real problems and it resulted in the deaths of millions of animals.. .
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terry, do the wilderbeast have to forgivve the lions, the crocs, or do the herds have to be culled to survive ?
what if there is no fall from grace, no sin, no need for forgiveness?
if the leaking roof is just a dream? our idea?
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If man evolved?
by tornapart ini know anyone who believes in evolution is going to say that there is no 'if' about it.
however.... if man evolved over hundreds of thousands of years ago, why were there only about 200-300 million people alive 2,000 years ago?
surely there'd have been many billions by then?.
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James Brown: look at cofties' tree illustration. he took a leaf from the WT overlapping generation idea. Different trees lived at different overlapping times, but catastrophic events like the little ice age for example are present in the ring spacing in all, albeit in some trees when they were young, others later. but of course the bristlecone pine and sequoyas lived thousands close to 10 000 years as individuals.
so, dont try to make a stubborn and "brilliant" defense for the untenable proposition.
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The "lost" disciples...?
by EdenOne inquestion:.
1 corinthians 15:4-6 "[jesus] was raised on the third day according to the scriptures, and that he appeared to cephas, and then to the twelve.after that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time".. .
acts 1:15 - "in those days peter stood up among the believers (a group numbering about a hundred and twenty)" .... acts 2:1 - "when the day of pentecost came, they were all together in one place...".
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the passover was a family affair, so the 12 was close spiritual family, jesus is reported to have send out 70 in 2by2s.
120 another increasing number, 500 "brothers" might refer to jews exclusively.
the bible story writers had favoured, standard numbers and it shows in the final edition.
icreasing increase.
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warning to the WATCHTOWER weary: the way of the july wt is wrong: because
by prologos inwhen you sum those articles up, it is about more boasting, more control and.
when one looks at the time of greatest increase, it was in the 60s 70, when there was.
a sharing of power through the rotating overseer arrangement and .
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when you sum those articles up, it is about more boasting, more control and
when one looks at the time of greatest increase, it was in the 60s 70, when there was
a sharing of power through the rotating overseer arrangement and
the promise of freedom from the fruitless house to house work, -- it would end in 1975 !!!! remember? but
freedom is an F word for the fallible fabricators of wt policy.
since the 80s enough time has elapsed to have the power- greedy to gain control and prominence again, and the strains are showing.
in one area we had news from, an unusual number of young, loved elders, not in the exclusive power club, inner party,- are observed to be resigning.
wt might go further south with the elite trying to soar. as per wt 7/15/13.
for every action there is a reaction: Isaac Newton, bible student.
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What would it take for YOU to come back?
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I could never go back, because for me it does not exist any more, but
if, as others have said
God (if any) would prove his existence as a CARING person, as a communicator, and
a sisterhood- brotherhood of only truly humble friends - sans impostors,
I would turn, not return to that future, possible real Ideal that we imagined we had, and disillusioned left for good. or the better.
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Biggest issue effecting apostates
by joe134cd ini got to thinking today & you know what i think the single biggest issue effecting apostates are.
its they cannot unite and this is what gives the watchtower the upper hand.
what needs to happen (and quite honestly i don't think it will)they all have to come under one common body.
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that history and like stoties are the reason we want to get off
and remain
SCOT FREE