It is not the trunk that counts it is the ROOT(S)
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Evolution Tree has no Trunk
by Escargot insimon: last post on this topic for the week!
hope all have enjoyed this information!.
"""""missing trunk .
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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there are lies, d----- lies and statistics.
context is all, Satan is mentioned too, and the stalking, talking snake.
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Numbers don't lie :The End of JESUS...
by raymond frantz in(1john2:22,23)who is the liar if it is not the one that denies that jesus is the christ?
this is the antichrist, the one that denies the father and the son.
23 everyone that denies the son does not have the father either.
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very good point : how can you be the ANTICHRIST if your not against the Christ?
these good diagrams are in accord with the ever greater use of the OT; Imitate their faith: not one Christian among them.
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Whats the most damning of the July 15 2013 changes?
by Crazyguy ina lot of the rank and file at the meetings seem to think some of the changes make more sense but what is the most damning of the changes that may help to wake to some up.
some thing the rank and file will not first see or understand as a big deal?.
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The idea that all the old feeders of the sheep, peter paul and (mary?), james, luke, the 2000 year passers on bible scribes, translators et al ,
were merely FREE LANCING, Independent contractors, non tenure teachers, renegates really because none of these were officially recognized.
Appointment had to wait
until the the coming of 8.
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What about your vow to Jehovah?
by a watcher indid you get baptized without being dedicated?.
why did you allow men to come between you and jehovah?.
why were you serving jehovah at all?
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a contract is null and void if fraud, misrepresentation is proven with one of the parties or their terms.
The father had never anything to do with it.
they hijacked the name. what a shame.
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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heathen, yes and of course they talk about the "anointed" 144 000. but
the term linked to the 144k in Rev7 is not "anointed",(all Christians are) but
"SEALED" sealed are confirmed , marked for martyrdom, axing.
They try avoiding the axe by building a bunker retreat Upstate NY. preppers with our money.
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Since Great Crowd has no mediator
by sosoconfused ini am thinking that maybe i missed this discussion or something.
now for years in the org i never ever paid attention to the article that says jesus is the mediator for the 144000 alone.
yesterday talking to my 70+ year old dad he got violently angry with me and threw his cane at me because he said i was a liar.. .
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Rat. 350 you said "the great crowd "IS" through the great Tribulation.
The Great Crowd in the Revelation 7 story is described only as "COMING OU of",-- that is
AFTER the Great Tribulation, all tears wiped out,-- like in Rev.21.
It is wrong to speak of the Great Crowd as EXISTING NOW.
the only thing we have now is the 12 spiritual tribes of Rev.7
even WT in their confusion admits that: wt 1995 page 31 question from readers: "--Rev 7:9 is describing this crowd AFTER the tribulation--"
notice cagey wt writers try to hide the truth by changing Great Tribulation to "tribulation", Great Crowd to "this crowd".
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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The Wt leadership, while capable dominators, do not have a clue what is happening in reality/prophecy.
they were SURPRISED by the swelling past 144 000 ranks, and the
Opportunistically exploited that puzzling situation to create a new sub-slave class, permanently subjugated. the fake OS, GC.
heathen: interesting and valid point about martyrdom, death-pact, but
the meaning of the memorial is broader, more based on John 6.
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The two-tiered Christian system. WHY?!
by DATA-DOG inthe wtbts asserts that the great crowd of [ other sheep ] teaching arose as an answer to the confusion of the rank-and-file, correct?
what confusion?
does anyone know any specifics?
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the wt has willing slaves because they make them believe that as a slave you are special, chosen, above the world.
Originally, for the he little band of russel/rutherford followers was created the same fantacy with the exclusive "PARTAKING of the REMNANT" doctrine.
Once the REMNANT became bigger than the total, the new R&F were told NOT to PARTAKE. in a hidden way.
That is how the NON PARTAKING Class emerged, later called OTHER SHEEP, a title stolen frm the GENTILES that Jesus was really talking about. A new kind of special slaves, that have no right to live for 1000plus years and have to slave to earn their free salvation.
a little bit like 1975, where the R&F willingly followed a tiny lead, one paragraph in a book, and the WT recognized a good thing when they saw it and rode the wave that they had created by the swell of all those that wanted so badly to be in the paradise.
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When will the celebration of the memorial end?
by ralphnathaniels inwhen will the celebration of the memorial end?
and why?
i missed that part in the speech.. and i want to know :).
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according to the july 15 2013 wt, The socalled "anointed" including the 8 will go to heaven BEFORE the Battle of A. and
WT doctrine dictates that no "anointed" no memorial.!! but:
second opinion, since that is wrong, and the "memorial" is and SHOULD be about the New Covenant, forgiveness of sins, regaining perfection, it should be remembered for at least a thousand years, berhaps foreever since it is the everlasting covenant, but
that all depends wether the talking snake really brought us into sin. and if not, we should remember to live good full lives for what God made was very good.