Posts by prologos

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WT asserts that the Bible is written only for the 144 000. so why--?

by prologos in

the 144 ooo are called the "sealed" in rev.7.-- wt morphed that into "anointed".. in rev.14:4 the 144 k are referred to as "--firstfruits--".. .

in his letter to hebrew christians paul mentions at 12:23 the "congregation ("church" niv) of the firstborn".

the 144 000.. --------- so why did he write to them: "you have approached the congregation--" ???

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Bobcat: reading Jesus on politics inside "Gods people" shows he (reportedly) had higher ideals,

on leader, benefactor double talk: " --This is not to be so among you--", or " --it is not given to ME--" on granting ranking positions.

What I fear is though, that WT is right in ignoring these injunctions, because in reality it is a tooth and claw world, and Jesus' benevolent world ideal is just wishful thinking cloaked as divine.

In other words the Bible was written by the would be rulers to render the ruled docile.

a hand book written for the "anointed " to control the OS, the lower animal class.

Surely, out of all these good discussions great insights will emerge.

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WT asserts that the Bible is written only for the 144 000. so why--?

by prologos in

the 144 ooo are called the "sealed" in rev.7.-- wt morphed that into "anointed".. in rev.14:4 the 144 k are referred to as "--firstfruits--".. .

in his letter to hebrew christians paul mentions at 12:23 the "congregation ("church" niv) of the firstborn".

the 144 000.. --------- so why did he write to them: "you have approached the congregation--" ???

good connections BOBCAT. yes that WT argument on "sacrificial death" was in the Rev. book. Of course the downside for Brooklyn is that what they were sacrificing is their right to everlasting life on earth due to the new covenant, which gave that covenant the EARTHLY Power that it deserves.

The sealing is by the angels, not by a quirk in your brain, so, as you said, the sealing of the 144 000 secret and is so far removed from OUR perception of leadership qualification as it can get.

mP the RCC has a court in the Vatican, complete with Devil's Advocate that decides who is a Saint aka "anointed".

WT decided all before Rutherford did not make it after all,-- but Franz, Knorr the eight did,-- without benefit of such formalities.

BUT PAUL in Hebr. 12 and Peter writing about " awaiting--NEW EARTH--" allowed for the "Earthly Class" to exist from Pentecost on and to be worthy readers of their letters.

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Another problem with "new light"

by leaving_quietly in

matt 25:34-40. then the king will say to those on his right, come, you who have been blessed by my father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the founding of the world.

35 for i became hungry and you gave me something to eat; i got thirsty and you gave me something to drink.

i was a stranger and you received me hospitably; 36 naked, and you clothed me.

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easy: according to wt NL :

you have to figure out which one of the 8 is the is the least, zero in on him and love bomb him. feeding, clothing the works.

before you had to be really generous all around, anybody could be masquerading as Christs brother, and they would not be sealed until the winds of Armageddon, overlapping generations away. now its easy.

SERIOUSLY, THE TEXT WAS NEVER HONESTLY APPLIED BY WTBtS.

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simple question: if the GB of 1919 vintage is the only and true F&DS, and ---

by prologos in

it is only the "duely appointed" presently 8=1 slave, or their overlapping successors that get the reward, according to scripture, after their rapture,.

how about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the f&ds?.

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and I dont call you shirley: very true: I am not questioning their claim but

If Jesus said that the FDS is the one that gets the reward. and

only the entity that started with R. in 1919 IS the F&DS, then

only they think they will claim the reward to the exclusion of the 139 992 current others, no?

an extraordinary claim or flaw in fable application.?

At least with the old "continuing slave class" explanation all could be included in the masters approval and reward ?

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simple question: if the GB of 1919 vintage is the only and true F&DS, and ---

by prologos in

it is only the "duely appointed" presently 8=1 slave, or their overlapping successors that get the reward, according to scripture, after their rapture,.

how about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the f&ds?.

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ADCMS, thank you, cant correct the headline, but:

Rutherford had /was a body, governing for sure, had his minnions, and wt implies continuity since then, but the question stands, even the flaw has relevance.

think about this question, answer it please, if you care, before passing to the next. one at a time.

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New IMITATE FAITH BOOK Page 21 Imitate NOAH ? wooaah!! better hold it !!

by prologos in

wt research is now published that shows how noah build the immense ark to withstand all these overwhelming stresses.

it was glued, cementet together like the most modern composite aircraft components.

of the 20 joints visible in the picture, not one has a fastener, dowel, nail, screw, bolt, not even a clamp to hold the thing together while the glue sets ????

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sorry that I did not keep mum about the release, but no "IMITATORS of their faith" witnesses peek here, although

Noah,s KIDS peeked at NO--AH!!.

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simple question: if the GB of 1919 vintage is the only and true F&DS, and ---

by prologos in

it is only the "duely appointed" presently 8=1 slave, or their overlapping successors that get the reward, according to scripture, after their rapture,.

how about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the f&ds?.

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prologos

it is only the "duely appointed" presently 8=1 slave, or their overlapping successors that get the reward, according to scripture, after their rapture,

How about the other 139 992 non-slaves, are they disqualified from the reward since they were never recognized as the F&DS?

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New WT teaches Faithful slave appointed over belongings is a FUTURE event, do they know what this means regarding themselves now?

by EndofMysteries in

this doctrine change is very interesting.

the july 2013 study watchtower pages 8 para 17 and 18 makes these statements....... .

""""we understood that the arriving mentioned.

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to illustrate the new teaching, try to think of a relay race as seen in the Olympic games.

The first runner, No. 1, called Jesus finishes his stretch (he could have gone at that speed forever believe it or not) and

passes the BATON to the next runner, called Peter, Co. etal and

after a short 60 years, the baton is passed again and again until

FINALLY, at the Ceremony, after many overlapping (c) wtbts.inc LAPS the team gets the medal(s). all 144 000 +1* of them. but:

In the WT version, There are all these people running. then,

in the final lap, "the time of the end" (c),--circa 1919, ONE only of the runners,

FDS No. 8 gets the baton, the one that NO.! was hiding all that time since the beginning of the race. Then

Amazingly only FDS No. 8 gets the real medal, "all the masters belongings" (c)

possible wt spin to that: FDS No.8 accepts the price in behalf of the 143 992 also rans. runs?

it does not add up, does not make sense --yet.

The competition to be called the F&DS, valid only in the last lap, after 60 overlapping generations of running.

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New IMITATE FAITH BOOK Page 21 Imitate NOAH ? wooaah!! better hold it !!

by prologos in

wt research is now published that shows how noah build the immense ark to withstand all these overwhelming stresses.

it was glued, cementet together like the most modern composite aircraft components.

of the 20 joints visible in the picture, not one has a fastener, dowel, nail, screw, bolt, not even a clamp to hold the thing together while the glue sets ????

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sos: I gave a description of a picture, hoping for one of the nerds to grab or scan it to show in all its glory.

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New IMITATE FAITH BOOK Page 21 Imitate NOAH ? wooaah!! better hold it !!

by prologos in

wt research is now published that shows how noah build the immense ark to withstand all these overwhelming stresses.

it was glued, cementet together like the most modern composite aircraft components.

of the 20 joints visible in the picture, not one has a fastener, dowel, nail, screw, bolt, not even a clamp to hold the thing together while the glue sets ????

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the book is made in Germany, not Amerika thats the excuse.