..little question...just seen mother on news in distress having lost her 2 month old baby.....in resurrection..(?) at what age will baby be resurrected..and what age will mother be.........and on the tragedy I'd like to congratulate god on a splendid days work.....not...it's all well and good to say that Jehovah will 'help our brothers'..but all he had to do was to have diverted any storm away....sorry..but I'm having issues with all of this at the moment...were I still on the ministry I could not explain to a householder why it happened....
westiebilly11
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philipines disaster news up on jw.org
by Captain Blithering inhttp://www.jw.org/en/news/
wouldn't it be nice if they said 'you know what, we've made millions in property sales recently, lets donate a couple million to a philipines relief fund..'
ten vans full, probably just for jw's.
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A mistake in fading 4 months ago is coming back to haunt me... HELP!!
by ILoveTTATT inso today, two elders from a congregation i was in two years ago came by the house.
they said they wanted to talk to me about things that they have heard, and that they want to talk to me very quickly, as soon as possible.
perhaps before this week ends.. i don't know what to do!!
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westiebilly11
..dont' meet with them.........why give them the gun to shoot you?.......walk away..stay away..but whatever you do ..do it for yourself....be honest with yourself...
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I think they're trying to shake off the Watchtower...
by gingerbread inwe had another couple over this weekend.
after taking a reasonable hike in the woods, we came back to the house, made a fire and began to talk a bit.
these folks are long time friends of ours and are (like us) slowly easing out of the kingdom hall.
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westiebilly11
could combine watchtower with awake mag.....cut costs....and include kindle edition etc....
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Meeting for those wishing to be appointed
by PrincessCynic ini heard recently that a nearby congregation which some of my family attend are having this.
basically the elders are arranging an open meeting with all those who would like to be appointed.
is this happening everywhere?
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westiebilly11
in for 30 years...now definitely out...never an elder or an ms .....but always always being used..lifts needed?..me.....help with hall maintenance?...me...stand in for last minute talks in the school?..me.....microphones?..me....watchtower reading?..me....literature counter?..me....etc etc etc etc...I always said yes to any request for help...and bent over backwards to help in anyway I could.....looking back I now realize I was used to compensate for absent volunteers....although I did enjoy ( and still do) helping others it leaves a nasty taste in the mouth when those I so freely helped shun me............and yes they do have meetings to enlist volunteers now...but little success as brothers are just not motivated/interested in putting themselves out...shame...
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should I tell the CO my doubts?
by Captain Blithering inits possible i might be asked by the co to work with him today.
hes gonna want to know why i'm holding myself back.
i'm itching to tell him about my doubts (only about the new light, how i cant get my head around how the hs would direct us to believe falsehoods for decades, not about everything, that'd be suicide!
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westiebilly11
express doubts to a CO?.....you'll just end up having your cards marked..and elders on your tail....play safe...keep your doubts to yourself and leave....eventually...without rigmarole of jc etc etc...
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"NEW LIGHT" FOR 2014? WHAT'S YOUR PREDICTION FOR 2014'S NEW AND IMPROVED LIGHT?
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inhi, i am reading a book on mind control and one of the areas the author stresses group control is their constant revision of "new insight from god" or "we have a new message from god".
in keeping with the spirit of new light, 2014 is going to need a moral boost because one hundred years of lies needs a spin doctor of bethel size.
the poster with the close new light for 2014 will be showered with glory and much pomp.
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westiebilly11
suspect they will ease back on making any date predictions....and will probably issue more dvds etc aimed at their teens and younger ones who may be internet aware......
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What % of householders would have a clue about the "life saving " message JW`s have brought to their doors these past 100 years.
by smiddy ini`m an optimist and i would say zilch .
i would bet you a million dollars ( if i had a million dollars ) that if you did a survey in the street that you live , asking the householders what is the life saving message jehovahs witnesses bring to your door on a regular basis , they would not have a clue.. and they have been preaching this message for over 100 years .
how inefective can they be .. the probable answers you would get are : they dont take blood transfusions.
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westiebilly11
I doubt whether anyone knows why jws engage in the 'ministry'...I know when I was 'in' I rarely was able to explain what I was doing calling on them...because their attention span was short and they were always pressed for time..in essence they wanted to know what I was doing there within the first few seconds of my disturbing them....I usually used the mags to do the work for me so concentrated on placing them and saying' I'm sure you'll enjoy reading these very interesting magazines..' etc etc......what a waste of time!!!!!!!!.....and as for using the bible..well...that was a no-no here in the uk!!!!!
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my disassociation letter
by unstopableravens indear elders at%^** congregation, november 1, 2013. .
as you know ive been a member of your congregation for many years.
throughout the last several years i have had the opportunity to get to know many of you personally and i can truly say i have love for all of you.
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westiebilly11
keep it short..they will just shutdown after few paragraphs...but still a good letter...
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The murmuring phase is the beginning of an ex-JWs progression towards fading.
by Stand for Pure Worship ini suppose part of the fascination i have with this board is, the exotic nature of those making up the member population.
i say exotic because, as you yourselves will agree with, folks such as yourselves don't hang around the christian congregation for long upon making the decision that truth is not for you.
(rom 1:25) this "fading" thing spoken of here likely plays a role into why christians such as me find the average ex-jw to be a bit fascinating.
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westiebilly11
murmurers..?...no..just ones who dont take everything from the fds 'with a pinch of salt..'....I became a jw at far too young an age (emotionally/spiritually speaking).....I allowed my study conductor to commandeer my own rational thinking (god given?) abilities...I allowed the jw org to indoctrinate my mind and submerge my own questioning ability......now after 30 years + of constantly changing (under the banner of New Light') wt doctrines etc I now realize that 8 old men do not have a direct line to a 'creator'...they are fallible and make mistakes.but never admit so...their arrogance and unscriptural ostracism of those who are thinkers has shown me that I am better off out of it....I'm old enough to remember how Hitler/Goebbels etc controlled the masses to their detriment....the wt org has echoes of such control...I ask myself..where is the love that should be the driving force behind a true caring human being...?.......we do not need rules and more rules and more divisive doctrines .......many of us are not convinced of the wt structure......as the saying goes..' A man convinced against his will..remains unconvinced still'......
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The 1914 generation is still going strong 100 years later - 2014 study article.
by THE GLADIATOR injanuary 2014 watchtower study article.
let your kingdom comebut when?.
this generation will not pass away.
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westiebilly11
yes things were much much worse many years ago.......so much for 'critical times hard to deal with'....I write this as i sit in a comfortable armchair with a hot cup of tea nearby and enjoying a nature tv program..with my supper cooking in the kitchen........we have never 'had it so good' as someone once said......!