God tells moses?...how did moses know it was god talking (!)..all smoke and mirrors.. as for john 1:18..how could john say that ?...how did he know for sure?? I note that nowhere does Jesus say god cannot be seen.....
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Exodus 24:10 - The Israelites saw Jehovah? Has this scripture ever been explained?
by truthseeker inhas anyone really pondered what this means?
jehovah said that no man can see god and live, and here at least 70 people saw jehovah standing on a bright blue pavement.
24 then the lord said to moses, come up to the lord , you and aaron, nadab and abihu, and seventy of the elders of israel.
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Exodus 24:10 - The Israelites saw Jehovah? Has this scripture ever been explained?
by truthseeker inhas anyone really pondered what this means?
jehovah said that no man can see god and live, and here at least 70 people saw jehovah standing on a bright blue pavement.
24 then the lord said to moses, come up to the lord , you and aaron, nadab and abihu, and seventy of the elders of israel.
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westiebilly11
Who wrote or decided that God can't be seen.?...
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Exodus 24:10 - The Israelites saw Jehovah? Has this scripture ever been explained?
by truthseeker inhas anyone really pondered what this means?
jehovah said that no man can see god and live, and here at least 70 people saw jehovah standing on a bright blue pavement.
24 then the lord said to moses, come up to the lord , you and aaron, nadab and abihu, and seventy of the elders of israel.
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westiebilly11
How could they differentiate between a vision and the real thing?...how would they have known?
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BEING SHUNNED
by JOHNROSS93 inafter almost 40 years of being shunned by close family members, it never gets easier.
my own mother is under the spell of the "organization" and won't even write to me.
for a long time i sent her things - cards, news articles of interest, jokes, etc - i finally gave up.
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shunning has never made much sense to me...it seems to be based on treating people coldly and that way the ones shunned will want to come back ...but..if I want butterflies in my garden I plant things they like and that way attract them...shunning works in reverse..it is unbelievably cruel and is something I could never imagine 'jesus' would endorse....or practice...
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If you don't like being a Jehovah's Witness then leave....
by Quirky1 inif you don't like being a jehovah's witness or going to the kingdom hall or the society then leave.... it's as simple as that... .
i left several years ago and have not been hounded, bothered or sought out by anyone.
i still see them from time to time, and yes, they do pour out the love bomb when you run into them, but eh, you know what?
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..thank you FlyingHighNow..have always and will always love them...just those thursday evenings getting them dressed up for evening meetings when they would rather have stayed home on schoolnights..and sundays when half the day was spent preparing to go to meeting and then coming home and reverting to normal mode...such a shame.....made more complicated by the fact that ours was a divided home...me in..but my wife left the org after our third was born...after 30 years in I wonder why I didn't see reality earlier......
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If you don't like being a Jehovah's Witness then leave....
by Quirky1 inif you don't like being a jehovah's witness or going to the kingdom hall or the society then leave.... it's as simple as that... .
i left several years ago and have not been hounded, bothered or sought out by anyone.
i still see them from time to time, and yes, they do pour out the love bomb when you run into them, but eh, you know what?
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what I'm finding harder to deal with in the two years since I left is trying to forgive myself for making our three children ( now very much grown up) attend meetings..I'm sorry that I dragged them to sit through talk after talk and demo after demo etc etc...and they were so well behaved and complied 'to please daddy'....the time lost to them can never be restored. I wish I had seen the ttatt years ago and enjoyed more of what a real loving father should do with his children..to them I can only say 'sorry'.
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Watchtower Oct 15 2014
by Listener inthe october watchtower 2014 is now up on jw org.
regarding the new covenant they write.
the governing body sets the scene in the first article by stating how they are like jesus and as humans they are sinless in god's eyes.. then on page 24 they state this.
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seem to me the gb have become unaccountable to anyone or anything......what they say goes..without question.
'winds of change' (scorpions hit!)
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Modern JW Org
by Infowarrior inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzaw1xe8q70.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gvqru9keiw4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsfyfiyzgg.
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And speaking in tongues too...coming soon...!
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The Sept 15 WT " Are You Convinced That You Have The Truth? Why?
by BluesBrother inthis article title leapt out at me and i thought that at last we may see some solid argument as to why the wt teaches what it does, some "reasoning on the scriptures ".. well... the theme scripture set a good scene, being rom 12.2 " prove to yourself the good and acceptable and perfect will of god" .
ok , let's prove it - logically.. the article starts by citing the witnesses neutrality and refusal to bear arms as a reason to believe.
now i happen to agree with that stand , but is it unique to j w's ?
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...self praise is no recommendation...
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July 6 WT Study- Lesson they want you to learn
by bruh2012 in- if you have a problem with someone in the congregation -it's your fault.
- only brothers have the immorality problem.
- brothers have 4 main vices on his mental shelf.
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westiebilly11
'...jehovah doesn't cause trials..but he allows satan to do so..'.. really?
Let me see..if I allowed a dangerous man into my house and allowed him to harm my wife and family then that's ok as my hands are clean?...come off it!! It would disqualify me as a husband and father surely?!...Jehovah is the original absent father as far as I can make out.