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  Another subliminal picture in the WT!!!!

  by DATA-DOG in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i just happend to wonder if the current issue had any hidden goodies.

  imagine my delight!.

  a gold star to the first person to correctly identify the image!.

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  ....and I see a black skull just above his left heel....as well as the other images already mentioned..
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  Elders: Born-Ins vs Recruits

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  this is an unofficial survey.. was curious as to the number of currently serving elders who were born-in and/or raised as jw versus those who were "recruited"( i.e, not born in or raised as jw.).

  for instance, right now in the hall i am assigned to:.

  2 elders were born-in and/or raised as jws.. 5 were not (recruited as adults).

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  8 elders when I last went year ago....all born ins..as were all the MS.....closed shop....elders average age about 65...
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  Since Elders And Mini Servants Have To Be Exemplary How Does Anyone Ever Qualify?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it seems to me that you must be almost perfect to be a " servant" in the organization today.

  no college, no spiritually weak in the family, no disfellowshipped living at home, no tight pants, etc......who can live up to their lofty ideals?.

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  exemplary?..really?...then how did some of the ones I've known ever qualify...oops.
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  Lowering the standards: The sign of a cult struggling for survival

  by Hidden-Window in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of the recent changes in the jehovah's witness organization are a clear sign of a cult that is struggling for survival.

  the internet has change the scenario in a very dramatic way.

  many of us who for years struggled alone with doubts and cognitive dissonance thinking that we were the only ones, that we, as individuals were the issue, now know that there is a large community of individuals who see the organization as what it is, a mind controlling cult that is not only false, but also dangerous.. the governing body clearly understands the consequences of this awakening.

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  older publications seem written by men who genuinely used their intelligence to explain and reason with readers..but recent publications and articles seem written to indoctrinate by bypassing rational thinking.....I recognise little of the society I knew when i first came/went in some 30 years ago.....they seem to have nothing to say about anything worthwhile..

  ps interesting comments 'I'm stuck in' above........
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  Elders are going to the CO on me

  by cognac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i celebrated halloween and my birthday and the elders have been told.

  husband told the elders i've called the religion a cult.

  they said i'm "heading down a road to be an apostate.

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  in my own personal experience you cannot trust the elders...they are programmed to dig for dirt, to fabricate allegations if necessary...in my own experience I even had my facebook account 'hacked' by a very tech savvy elder and ms resulting in fabricated comments put on my pages...as I said...elders are not to be trusted....sorry.
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  & They Say “Privileges” In The Congregation Isn’t a Status

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  im sure you all have heard at one point or read that being an elder or ms isnt a position higher up but rather that you work under the congregation.. anthony morris just threw that out the window!

  i have privileges in the congregation and even i was offended and felt bad for anyone who was 23 or older and not a ms!.

  he goes on to tell this story of how a sister wanted to marry a brother and that anthony morris discouraged it because he was 23 and not an ms yet.

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  some of the elders and ms appointed prior to my exit were self righteous, judgemental narrow minded individuals with very little experience of real life......with one thing in common...all were born ins...as was the PO....any brother who was a 'walk in of my own choice group' was almost always overlooked...as being spiritually weak etc etc....but in retrospect I think it came down to control..as born ins risk losing contact with family etc if they were to 'wake up'...
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  Is the Society trying to self sabotage?

  by truthseeker in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not going to list all the changes here that have happened in 2014, most of you who frequent the boards know about them.. in reference to anthony morris' talk, i can't help feel that the organization is behaving so abnormally out of character for itself that it is bewildering even to ex jws.. cultish behavior is perfectly normal for cults, but whats happened this year is so far out of whack it beggars belief.. what do they think they are doing?

  are they psyching jws up for some major announcement?.

  i can't help but feel that something really strange is going on, this does not feel like the regular "special announcements" followed by articles in the watchtower.. .

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  one major difference between all other attempts to re invent itself before and now is the free flow of information and easy access to ex jws available on the internet.......the gb have a hard task to withold past errors in the face of the web..
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  Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

  by Newly Enlightened in

  1. social
  2. current

  in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

  http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

  documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

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  ..that poor buck is being passed around faster than a hot potato.....
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  Im still young (19)....just reading Crisis of Conscious

  by Blackfalcon98 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hi guys, ive finally got a copy of coc from my local library, im on page 120ish and im really enjoying it!

  the thing that gets me now that im enlightened is how little the rank and file know about anything this organazation does!

  everything is so secretive and covered up behind a curtain.

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  ray franz proved refreshingly honest and open in both his books......eyeopeners...and I too felt angry at wasting 30 years in the cult...a man made cult..it closwed my eyes to much in the real world and cut me off from the really nice youngsters I grew up with...because ' the whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one.....'...but now i realize that those in the cult are the ones who 'have had their eyes blinded'....there are genuinely nice people in the org...as there are in most walks of life..but...the controlling and manipulative gb body have much to answer for...
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  I am JW.ORG

  by LogCon in

  1. social
  2. humour

  famous quote from wuthering heights revised.. '... i am jw.org!

  it's always, always in my mind: not as a pleasure, any more than i am always a pleasure to myself, but as my own being.

  so don't talk of our separation again: it is impracticable...'.

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  westiebilly11

  ...meant to say aaron was reproved for allowing golden calf..not died!.he allowed it to be made...and god struck the people with a plague..idol worship