perhaps by using the jw. / org symbol/sign the buildings will automatically pass into corporate wt ownership...is there any small print anywhere that might hint at this?.....
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A few more random thoughts on the new Kingdom Hall design meeting
by sir82 inleft completely unsaid at the meeting: who is going to be the owner of the property & building when all of these new khs are built?
in the current arrangement, in most cases, a local trust is set up to hold ownership.
of course, the most likely answer is "the watchtower (or whatever shell corporations they set up) will own the land & building".
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Last nights meeting...
by DATA-DOG ini know dubs are delusional.
i know dubs don't reason well.
i know dubs are a bit off, like many groups.
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...there was a time when I was in when the org/jw/wt stood for pure worship of a loving and patient god....meeetings and study material was solid and constructive...positive and heartwarming.encouraging all of us to work together and reach out to one another...the bible really did seem true...a real message from god.....elders were loving and caring...approachable......but now...when I see stuff like this topic and random wt articles spouting forth hate for weaker ones...I am saddened and even angry....wishy washy doctrines...isolationism from the real world....trapped young people with no viable or painless way to walk out into the real world and pursue careers and education and be really useful to others.....this cartoon dvd is almost..almost rock bottom.... -
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Survey: How Many Here Have Gotten Into Trouble With The Elders
by minimus inhow many were brought in the infamous back room?
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vey true blondie...wish I had taken your advice a few years ago....I complied...all the way.. -
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Awake January 2015: How did life begin? - More misquotes
by Designer Stubble in[quote]some might assume that a scientifically-minded person would pick evolution and that a religious person would pick creation.
but not always.. rama singh, professor of biology at canadas mcmaster university, says: the opposition to evolution goes beyond religious fundamentalism and includes a great many people from educated sections of the population.[/quote].
end-of-quote in awake.
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New WTS end date - 2034?
by campaign of hate inso i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.
where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.
jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.
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have any prophecies/dates or doctrinal prophecies ever come true?...after 30 years in I struggle to think of anything that has come true...in the end it comes down to 'expectation postponed makes the heart sick'....true,..very true. -
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Need to vent: Wife just went in full cult mode, huge fight. she is so brainwashed
by goingthruthemotions inout of the blue my wife started to ask me about my feeling about the borg.
i told her i didn't want to talk about it...she persisted.
she already knows how i feel, i told her that my biggest beef is that they use mind control, and yep she went in to how i was an apostate and how she doesn't want to be married to an apostate.
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perhaps her cult mode is indicative of her inner turmoil....perhaps she is struggling with making sense of it all...perhaps....the old 'methinx thou dost protest too much 'thing...she may be wanting to be out but the cult mindset is holding her back..after all..what about the headship principle?...why is she being provocative..attacking...?... -
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The Watchtower Writers Blame the Rank-and-File For Failed Prophecy, Why so Evil the Writers/
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker inwho is to blame jehovahs witnesses and the bible students believing the end was coming in 1914?
ive been reading lots of older magazines and they are so different from todays watchtower!
the current writers from the organization blame everyone except themselves for failed expectations, failed prophecy, "financial ruin and dependance on the goverment "old age social security and medicaid" on their rank-and-file members.
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Brilliant comments above....all thought provoking...
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..brilliant covers you guys!....
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After Six Months of Hiatus, I can tell you the Watchtower is Starting to Crumble Faster than you think!
by SanLuisObispoTruthSeeker ini took a hiatus from jwn because the wall started to collapse because i lost several people ive known almost my entire life.
these were people i thought would never die, the lies told by the watchtower is unforgivable!
there was a party i attended keeping a low profile while documenting what was said.
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I often see witness youths on the ministry looking dejected and moving as slow as possible just to fill the hours...they lack any motivation other than the need to be seen to be out...i doubt if they sincerely seek interested ones anymore for the simple reason few people are interested in either the JW message ( whatever that is these days) or religion generally. Even worse is the revolutionary idea(!) of standing on streets etc with a stand/trolley with literature...waiting for people to take them. I asked a friend of mine one day to approach a trolley and ask the trolley attendants about literature and having a study..she was told that they only had literature and dvds for the deaf....!..Seems to me that they are trying to hone in on the 'less able ' in society..the vulnerable.. As for a crumbling wt org the internet and mass flow of unwelcome enlightening information must be affecting many in the org.
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What Do the Bible & JW.ORG Really Teach!
by The Searcher in1) the bible tells us there will be one flock under christ!
(john 10:16).
- "today, the vast majority of the eight million disciples of jesus are not spirit-anointed.
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how can they teach what they don't know?...