Good subject, and one that has often intrigued me over the years. So many questions are raised by this..... Who am I? Where was I before I was made?...Where did I come from?.. What is identity? Is this my first appearance as a live individual?... All seeking answers...It does give me tremendous empathy for others, as I could have been them were I not 'me'....Will I really die/disappear at death?...etc etc..
westiebilly11
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Who is your " I am" that your voice should be heard?
by The Rebel ini was recently thinking before i became " mike" i was an innocent baby, then as the days passed slowly by, i developed a sence of " iam".
as the days moved forward my body, slowly developed a a "sex organ" whilst my mind took on a sence of " emotional" and " intellectual" i am" .
this allowed me to become my current " i am?.
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The JW Fake News Engine
by snugglebunny inapparently i'd been in prison, gone to wife-swapping parties and consorted with fortune tellers.
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i guess they have to demonise those who leave less others too are tempted to stray.. what did they say about you?.
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westiebilly11
What they don't know they make up. Standard fare. The same basis for many doctrines too.....
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"... climate of disfellowshipping in Hull currently... " - Hull Daily Mail
by Nicholaus Kopernicus inarticle from the above news paper... .
http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/hull-jehovahs-witnesses-speak-out-444185.
maybe boe in north east england having an attack of zealous fervour!
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westiebilly11
Seems to me a case of paranoia. Is their faith so brittle that it cannot cope with being questioned or analysed? I suggest that those who question and express doubts re the Org's credentials are more genuine and honest than those who blindly swallow everything without at least checking it's nutritional worth..... I have more respect for such honest questioners. They shouldn't be disfellowshipped, rather their questions etc should be openly addressed and appreciated. They're not seeking to sink the ship, just testing the seaworthiness of it.
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What is the latest trend in jw land
by bola ini want to know the latest trend in jw land.
after i have disassociated from jw land last year, now my father has forced me to write a reinstatement letter.
and i will soon be reinstated back very soon because those cult elders will meet with me.
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westiebilly11
Your post doesn't seem right....lacking credibility.....assuming you are genuine for a moment, I advise you not to do anything you're not 100% happy doing, including writing a reinstatement letter....to do so is a recipe for unhappiness ...
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How Are Ex Elders Treated In The Congregation?
by minimus inare they pretty much left alone?
are they respected for their having been elders at one time?
are they treated like crap?.
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I prefer the honesty of such elders who step down, compared to the sham of those who should be removed but are not. We had a few elders step down over the years. All were very down to earth men and gave of themselves to help others, never seeking recognition for doing so either....
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Seeking Riches That Are True
by NJ501 inyour thoughts on today's watchtower?.
can you explain?.
how can material possessions be used to strengthen our friendship with god?
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westiebilly11
Always remember one brother, (now an elder.,) who in a talk/item said that after his road accident, when four 'worldlings' were killed, Jehovah blessed him with a Ford Granada car....then he was further blessed with a three year old Range Rover!!!..Beggars belief! Yet this same elder refused to materially help his dying father..to the extent that his own mother , after the father died, moved far away from this elder because of his 'materialism'....!
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Question...
by ironsnake656 inwhen you were an active member in the jwland, did you expect to receive any kind of help from a brother/sister, but they did not help you?
when i was in the jwland, i expected and was my belief that any brother/sister will help you in time of need, distress or trouble, because we were part of a "lovely organization".
but countless of times when i needed and asked for help, nobody from the org helped me.
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westiebilly11
In the 30 plus years I was in, I enjoyed helping in any way I could. Car lifts to assemblies and conventions, hall cleaning, garden work, taking in a homeless sister when she had to find accommodation at very short notice, lending tools etc out to others, standing in at short notice whenever needed to fill items in the Ministry School etc... But when I needed help I rarely got it with the exception of one or two genuinely caring and humble elders,including the one who brought me in.. Other ministerial servants and elders withheld needed help and support when my late wife was dying...It was left to worldlings to step in and offer unconditonal help.. Even when on my own for several years, I was never invited round for meals etc to other's homes... It all seemed so strange. Very clique and discriminatory, as it seemed that families helped their own , but rarely reached out to those without family in.....such a shame.
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Over 300 DFed apparently went to a northern U.K R.C!
by Isambard Crater inthat's what i've been told by a family member (elder) who went to one of the regional conventions in the north of the u.k lately, who told me the 300 or more disfellowshipped who returned to jehovah by attending show that the end is so close, just like the final talk says..
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westiebilly11
Suspect it is more to do with divided families seeking contact.
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Returning to the truth.
by Justmeok2 inhi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.
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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..
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westiebilly11
Wish you well in your choice.
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New Announcement At The 2017 - DF'd People To Sit At The Back Of The Hall
by pale.emperor inhas anyone else heard this?
a poster on another thread said it's a new rule brought in at this years convention.. last year they were told to shun even non df people and now this?
a religion cant force someone where to plonk their ass surely?.
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westiebilly11
After I was DF, ( bitter injustice which had I known then what I know now.etc.....) I continued to attend all meetings for 8 months. During that time a rather more perceptive elder always came up to me after and gently gripped my shoulder and smiled.... I always used to sit at the back because I felt I could be a distraction/talking point during meetings... I stopped going when the shunning seemed just incredibly plain rude to me, rather than any scriptural command....